Army General bans OFF BASE concealed carry in Alaska

[Sevengunner]

Challenging the Order

Public outrage or Congressional pressure are probably the most effective, but there is a legal avenue for seeking review of an order. Anyone in that command can challenge the order as illegal without risking court-martial (or Article 15 punishment) by filing a Complaint of Wrong under Article 138 UCMJ. As other posters have noted, it may not be a career enhancing move politically, but plenty of folks are in a position where politics at that level don't impact their advancement...just don't expect any career officers to do it.

 

[ServiceSoon]

I have been told by a few friends who were/are in the military that they are there to protect the constitution, not to follow it. *shrugs

 

[Cosmoline]

Well we'll protect the soldiers from the various threats up here. Moose, bear, angry Samoans, Wildalaska, etc.

 

[tecdv]

I have all the respect in the world for our troops and wish them all the best and hope they all come home safe. But it's stupid, crazy, dumba**, rules like this one that I got out when my time was up. I loved my job and what it stood for, but life under the thumb of an idiot with a star on his collar was too much to handle. Loved the lifestyle, but hated the life.

 

[Frog48]

I can understand orders that are issued to keep soldiers servicable (wearing helmets on motorcycles, etc)... but if a soldier gets attacked by a bear because he wasnt packing, I'd say that he wouldnt be in a very servicable physical condition.

 

[carebear]

Grant,

It addresses concealed carry. Not open carry of a bear protection firearm.

Which raises another interesting point. Open carry is perfectly legal. All the soldiers need to do is not conceal the gun.

I suppose that would make them "out of uniform" if they were in cammies (which they shouldn't be wearing off base anyway, frikkin relaxed Army) but they would still be within policy on the concealed side.

 

[hub]

article 15, 92, or 134, if your under that prick your just plain guilty. kinda like tecdv said i loved the marines just hated the dumb azzes in charge. someone gets in a fight, all marines restricted too base!, someone gets a dui, no marine drives on base 0100-0500!, someone gets layed and is 30 secs late for formation all marines must report 30 min prior!. i would'nt follow any of these azz clowns in to battle. my last to two couldnt fight their way out of a wet paper bag much less combat. everyone thats been in knows that the staff nco ic is the one who runs the show. that being said i would salute that a hole all day every day in the time of war.

 

[DocCas]

Good grief! This thread is 4 years old. Lt. Gen. Charles H. Jacoby Jr., is now the commanding general of I Corps and Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Washington. <sigh>

 

[NavyLCDR]

I love the military, but I can't take this kind of crap anymore. I have gone from planning a 20 year career, to planning to ETS in just the last few months.

You might want to look at that a little closer. Trading a military pension for the rest of your life and very, very cheap health care (hopefully) for the rest of your life for not being able to conceal carry for a couple of years, especially when open carry is still allowed free and clear?

But, if you do have such a huge problem with obeying stupid orders that make no sense, then maybe the military isn't such a good place for you anyway....

You know the difference between the Army and the Boy Scouts?.....
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The Boy Scouts have adult leaders.

 

[Art Eatman]

Enough necrothreadia...