Army Times FN SCAR Video

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Awesome, so when are they repealing the 86 ban? And when are they getting rid of the restrictive licensing requirements for storing grenades?

It's very neat, but unless the laws change a lot, there is no point for the average person to get one over an FNC from like 20 years ago.
 
It's very neat, but unless the laws change a lot, there is no point for the average person to get one over an FNC from like 20 years ago.
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Huh? :scrutiny:

Except, of course, that FN has stated that it plans on releasing a civilian-legal SCAR in 2007 or 2008. FNCs haven't been imported for more than a decade.
 
Again, what is the point of the gun?

OMG more controllable under full auto! Must have feature for neutered civilian version!

Better grenade launcher! Another feature I'll be sure to use a lot.

I can swap parts from one gun to the other! I wonder if the US Army will ever embrace such a revolutionary idea?

Every feature that will make it to the civilian version was already done on the FNC years ago. The only new thing is that the magwell/pistol grip comes away from the action, which they needed to do for teh 7.62x39 > 7.62x51 swap on the SCAR-H. It's cool, but not $,$$$ cool.

You guys who are so excited now should wait until the pricing numbers are released.
 
Well civilian versions aside I think it would make a great replacement for the M16 for our military. The versatility of the weapon is awesome.

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I still don't understand why you're touting the FNC as a better choice. The FNC could be the best rifle in the history of mankind, but that doesn't change the fact that they're not imported and you can't find one.

Personally, I'm looking forward to a modular, ambidextrious, modern rifle design in .308, with quick change barrels! So what if I can't have the grenade launcher? I haven't needed one yet.

The point of this gun is a more versatile weapon system for US Special Forces. FN thinks they can make a buck selling the civilian version, and I'm inclined to agree with them. I don't see why there needs to be a greater point than that.
 
I don't own a firearm chambered for 7.62x54mm. The SCAR-H will be my first! And I'll pick up a SCAR-L...well...just..y'know...'cause I can?
 
Earlier this year while stateside I spent two weeks at the FN factory. Lets me just say in no uncertain terms that FN makes a fine rifle. They make fine belt feds too. High quality outfit.
 
Beren.

It is a 7.62x51. I believe you are thinking of the x54R. That is the OPFOR round.
 
That is a nice rifle. Not crazy about the tan finish, but looks good. The Lower appears to have significant AR/M-16 influence, but I like that they got away from the AR/M-16 charging method. I don't like the buttstock, but it looks like it should work good.
 
In a civvy version, I'd take just just a collapsable stock. Collapsing and folding isn't really necessary.

And a 2007-2008 release date for the civvy version is a heck of a good reason to make sure the Dems don't take Congress this year!
 
I think I'm missing something.
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Variety is the spice of life?

Seriously, everytime a new .223 comes out, there are always guys saying "why buy this, just buy an AR". I don't understand that. When a new .308 rifle comes out, the .308 shooters just add it to their collection. I know plenty of guys that have M1As, FALs, and HK91s. :scrutiny: All becasue it's different doesn't mean it's bad. It's not like the AR-15 is the alpha and omega of small arms design.

According to SOCOM, it's superior to the M4. The fact that they're adopting it to replace their M4s (and other weapons) attests to that. How much bearing that has on the individual shooter depends soley on the shooter. Personally, I don't give a flip what guns SOCOM uses, I just want a SCAR-H .308.
 
The closest I will get to a SCAR-H or SCAR-L is if I play Battlefied 2. :mad:

Think of it this way:

It's a good firearm to get, because it is precisely the sort of firearm that riles up the antis. :D

Seriously though, it looks top notch, and provides a change from the usual AR stuff.
 
Variety is the spice of life?

Seriously, everytime a new .223 comes out, there are always guys saying "why buy this, just buy an AR". I don't understand that. When a new .308 rifle comes out, the .308 shooters just add it to their collection. I know plenty of guys that have M1As, FALs, and HK91s. All becasue it's different doesn't mean it's bad. It's not like the AR-15 is the alpha and omega of small arms design.

According to SOCOM, it's superior to the M4. The fact that they're adopting it to replace their M4s (and other weapons) attests to that. How much bearing that has on the individual shooter depends soley on the shooter. Personally, I don't give a flip what guns SOCOM uses, I just want a SCAR-H .308.
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#1 The article is in the Army Times. This would suggest to me the Army may be interested in it.

#2 Someone suggested it's a more versatile weapon for the SF. I don't see how it's better that anything they have now. Quick change barrell, so what.

#3 Who said anything about AR's being any better than anything else? That sounds like your hang-up not mine.
 
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"I still don't understand why you're touting the FNC as a better choice. The FNC could be the best rifle in the history of mankind, but that doesn't change the fact that they're not imported and you can't find one."

You need to look harder. Check out sturm or subguns. I think the point he was trying to drive home is that one can purchase a registered FNC (full auto) whereas one cannot purchase a FA Scar-L or H without all the SOT stuff... What would you take a full auto FNC or a semi SCAR?

Personally, I'll likely buy a Scar-H as it will match my belgian FAL nicely.
 
as a recipient of the army times i was happy to see that they featured a pretty good write up on the scar, and they also a little bit in there about the s&w survival kits. I really wish they would do more of this. It made my day to read about something besides deployments, extenstions to deployments, and dead soliders. you know? thanks for the video!
 
And the transferrable full auto FNC is only a few times more expensive than the semiauto civilian SCAR-L is likely to be. Anyone who can afford to stay up to date in the space-rifle of the month club can afford an FNC and a garage full of ammo.

Remember how excited everyone was about the FN FS2000 until people learned it cost almost as much as a car and all the moving parts were made out of barbie plastic?

AR's are expensive compared to AKs, but you can get a reliable and accurate AR with nice optics for almost half the cost of these wonder rifles. The AR design may merely be a well polished turd, but it makes up for its shortcomings by virtue of already being established.

Unless someone starts producing a noticeably superior competitor to the AR in the sub 1000 dollar range, I dont see much in the way of market success. People are going to rightly ask why they are being asked to pay extra for something that isnt appreciably better. And these companies are deluding themselves if they think that they will ride the government to financial success- the government procures things very slowly and often in limited numbers at first. A "special forces rifle" is not going to be churned out in numbers so large they can afford to ignore the civilian market.
 
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