Army's Airborne Sniper System -- .338 Lapua

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I have a RND Edge 2000 being built, it should be complete in a month or two.

I was under the impression that this was 7 separate targets within a minute. Not many human snipers can do that. Also, that it only carries 7 rounds. Remember, this is not a FA, but a discrete sniper platform.
 
Don't underestimate the technology. If you have ever done gunnery in an M-1, you know that there is a LOT you can do with gyro-stabilization technology, and that's 1980-is tech. It's not at all unrealistic for a flying platform to be as good as a human or better in slow-fire.

Again, it's just a question of if the army really decides it's worth it.
 
"My question is why develop a specialized automatic .338 Lapua rifle when there are already .50 BMGs available that can be modified?"

Our snipers in Iraq did not favor the .50 for great accuracy. Partly due to the lack of match ammo. When you unlink the regular ammo it is not great for accuracy. That's not to say you cant do it, but they told me its not as accurate as they would like. On the other side having the 338 ammo you can engage to 1200-1500 Meters (I have been told) with various combination of bullets. For anti personnel the round is great, and to strap the thing on a heli with some gyros that would be good for cover and recon.
 
Don't underestimate the technology. If you have ever done gunnery in an M-1, you know that there is a LOT you can do with gyro-stabilization technology, and that's 1980-is tech. It's not at all unrealistic for a flying platform to be as good as a human or better in slow-fire.

Again, it's just a question of if the army really decides it's worth it.
 
garymc wrote:

Great idea, but the art is in the name. When someone on the ground shoots the thing down, the operator can say "they shot me right in the ARSS." Blew my ARSS right out of the air...

LMFAO :D


Anyway, looks like it would be quite effective. Now we just have to see how much this thing costs, and if the gub'mint is willing to spend it. BTW I think the .338 is a fine choice.
 
Am I the only conservative reactionary who would like to pull the brakes on the technical developements and see angry short-haired guys running cursing up steep hills carrying bolt action rifles fighting each other.

The thought of a physically underdeveloped 19-year old with pimples, Jolt cola in hand and x-box, killing some hard core well trained soldier by the click of a game console button in a safe warm bunker somewhere makes me feel ill...

31 years old and already an old fart... I feel sorry for my girlfriend.. :)
 
Well, if the Army doesn't need it , I can see a place for it in the civillian market.
Imagine a Elk hunt in Wyoming without having to leave the comfort of your easy chair.
Probably too expensive for prarie dogs though.
 
well, i dont know why you guys are being skeptical or nervous. I, for one, welcome our new metal overlords and look forward to the rise of the machine

I am with you, all hail!
 
The thought of a physically underdeveloped 19-year old with pimples, Jolt cola in hand and x-box, killing some hard core well trained soldier by the click of a game console button in a safe warm bunker somewhere makes me feel ill...
If the 19 year old is one of us and the trained soldier is one of our enemies, it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
 
Legal Question

Personally I had assumed it was rather illegal of me to strap (bolt, duct tape, or otherwise affix) a shotgun onto an RC car with a remote controlled solenoid connected to the trigger. That is the way I am paraphrasing the way I interpret these tests.

So please explain what needs to be done so these kinds of tests can be done legally, or is there no law prohibiting me from firing a gun remotely as long as the gun is legal.
 
Bigalexe -- these tests are for the military so they're perfectly legal. If you're planning on doing the RC + shotgun test at home, my advice would be to consult a lawyer first or just say no altogether. There is a lot than could (and likely would) go wrong here...
 
Hey, if Bigalexe wants to build his own superintellegent death machine to fight the other super-machines, more power to him
 
And it does give new meaning to the term, Fight the machine. now if we can just find a was to automate the tanks and infantrymen... Yep, no possibility for anything bad there. I especially like that they're super smart
 
Bigalexe -- these tests are for the military so they're perfectly legal. If you're planning on doing the RC + shotgun test at home, my advice would be to consult a lawyer first or just say no altogether. There is a lot than could (and likely would) go wrong here...
Name one thing that could go wrong with attatching a shotgun to a remote control car and then coming up with a way to fire the shotgun (also by remote). :D
 
Hey, if Bigalexe wants to build his own superintellegent death machine to fight the other super-machines, more power to him

LOL...if BATF would agree with that, we would all be wiring the kids' XBox to our firearms... :)
 
My brother and I watch Anime from time to time and we both think that this thing looks like something straight out of Ghost in the Shell. A remote controlled sniper drone. Kinda sounds like something from Warhammer 40k too.
 
I wonder how stable it is.
I had read in another article that there were some issues with the gyroscopic stabilization, but researchers from the University of Utah were able to fix the problems. Now, it appears to be rock-solid.

A bigger question would be the target acquisition process. In a dense environment with lots of movement and questionable visibility, the ARSS will need some excellent optics and EO-IR systems.
 
" . . . shot me in the ARSS . . ." Really. LMFAO.

So, then, what you all are saying is that for me to own one of these babys or just turn it into a glorified clay pigeon, all I'll need is an xbox controller and learn to hack into the software or radiowaves?

I believe in the KISS principle: the more complicated the contraption the more achilles heels it'll have and the easier it'll be to find one.
 
Ok the reason I brought this up is that honestly there's probably a lot of testing that has to get done before the military would even consider coming to your backyard (or inviting you to there's) to show off your new robo-gun.

In a nutshell what I see here is a really fancy RC Helicopter, some really fancy RC aiming devices, a $50 pen camera and receiving equipment for the controller, add on a mount for the gun, replace the trigger with a solenoid, and then you have a rudimentary version of what they built. Honestly that version is not very expensive, technically complicated, or illegal to buy parts of and piece together. Additionally mapping the digital inputs from a 5vdc controller (such as the Xbox, PS3, or ancient NES) is not hard to do if you have some programming knowledge for something like an Arduino.

What I'm saying here is to get a very simple and unstable version of what they are doing is quite easy for someone with engineering background. If you can afford to purchase and shoot an AR-15 with a Trijicon, you've probably spent more on the gun than this project would cost you using a budget .22LR rifle for proof-of-concept so I think cost isn't too difficult.

So I'm guessing in order to actually test this stuff you need either a very big backyard, something on the order of a thousand acres, or a friend in the federal government to make the ATF believe you aren't crazy.

Oh and in response to this:
Name one thing that could go wrong with attatching a shotgun to a remote control car and then coming up with a way to fire the shotgun (also by remote).

The engineer decides to use a common RC Frequency such as 49mhz and gets interference resulting in an accidental discharge while he's working on the car with the gun loaded (because it was just a quick tweak) and also pointing at the front of his pelvic area.
 
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rc rocket launcher

when I was in highschool a friend of mine got busted for chasing down kids with his rc chopper that he set up to launch bottle rockets between the skids.this was in 1982 and he was 17. it cost his father several grand in cort costs and loyers fees to keep my buddy out of jail. so this is something i would think long and hard about before i would try any similar "test".
 
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