Asheville, NC gun buyback

[John Wayne]

I know, I know, another buyback thread. Nothing special about this one, and in one of the most liberal cities below the Mason-Dixon line. Anyway...

Just saw a brief story on the news. Apparantly the police are offering $50 per handgun and $100 for "assault rifles." The video clip showed a box and a table, looked like maybe 30 guns in total "bought back" over the course of the day.

From what I could recognize, there was a beat up Marlin model 60, a Kel-Tec P11 and a few other slide-action shotguns, single shots, etc. What really depressed me was an antique external hammer side by side shotgun. Who knows, it could have been junk but I'd bet it's got quite a history.

A police officer said that they'd had a few illegal guns (sawed-off shotguns) turned in, and were "just glad to have them off the street." Of course, no questions were asked of the people that turned them in.

I did have a laugh after they said that guns did not have to be in working order, and then showed a cardboard box with a beat up revolver frame (no cylinder) and a few other guns missing obvious parts like hammers, barrels, etc. Guess somebody cashed in on their old parts box

I guess I have mixed feelings about this. In trying to keep an open mind, $50 is probably about what a Marlin 60 is worth. If I had a broken one, I'd rather sell it to a buyback than lie and tell someone it was working. Also, a parts box full of handgun frames and junk can be cashed in for more gun-related purchases. Lastly, if a relative of yours somehow left you an illegal SBS, and assuming it was a single shot 12 ga. or some such with a 10" barrel, this would probably not be a bad way to go about getting rid of it.

My point in asking this is to address a new topic: what do you think is the likelihood criminals will start stealing guns specifically to turn in to buyback programs? A crook could break into a house, grab an AR and a couple pistols, and make several hundred dollars. All while the police help destroy the evidence and the taxpayers foot the bill.

 

[THE DARK KNIGHT]

If a crook breaks into a house and steals guns, especially expensive ones like an AR 15, why would he take it to a buyback for a hundred bucks? Especially when he could just sell it on the street, or hell, take it to a gun show and get $600-900 bucks for it on a private sell? Would have to be a real moron of a burglar to take it to the buyback.

 

[Warhawk83]

My point in asking this is to address a new topic: what do you think is the likelihood criminals will start stealing guns specifically to turn in to buyback programs? A crook could break into a house, grab an AR and a couple pistols, and make several hundred dollars. All while the police help destroy the evidence and the taxpayers foot the bill.

That is exactly what I was thinking as I was reading your post. If the crooks are smart enough ti seems pretty likely to me. I can imagine a meth head grandson robbing his grandfathers place for a few hundred bucks from a buyback.

 

[John Wayne]

The longer a crook holds on to it, the more likely he is to get caught. The more people that see it, that don't buy it, increase the number of witnesses. The police in this instance provide a guaranteed buyer, at a guaranteed price, and promise that the evidence will be destroyed.

 

[THE DARK KNIGHT]

Why would the meth head grandson wait for a buyback when he could take it to a gunshow and do a private sell though? What witnesses, how many people are walking around selling rifles all day? A $600 AR IS a guaranteed sell. There is no ID or paperwork at all needed, "cash and carry" so what evidence would there be? "Uh, I bought it from some guy. He was like, white, and 20 something" wow great leads!

Question

If you were walking around a gun show and some kid had a 99% condition AR-15 for $500 how many people you think would be all over it in minutes trying to buy?

 

[Warhawk83]

Meth head grandson may not have to wait, my thinking he would hear about it then go grab the guns. Quick turnaround...no questions asked..

 

[THE DARK KNIGHT]

We could go on forever, though. Say he hears there's a gun show in town next week. Quick turnaround.

The reality is, if grandson is robbing grandpa's guns for meth money, the family's got bigger problems than gun shows and buyback programs. For the most part, the buybacks are like carbon credits, they just make left wingers feel good. WHo knows, maybe they do take a few illegal guns off the streets. When the gov't stops taking 25% of my paycheck to care for deadbeats I'll worry about what they do with $50.

 

[John Wayne]

Ok Dark Knight, I'm not saying your scenario couldn't happen. But reconsider based on the fact that criminals, especially ones with drug habits, are looking for quick cash.

Are they gonna flip through Shotgun News to see when the next gun show is? Wait 3 weeks, then drive out there? Or take it down to the buyback they saw while sitting around watching TV all day, and score a hundred bucks for the next hit?

 

[paintballdude902]

there was a buy back?? dang im about a half hour from there i would gone to a pawn shop to make some quick cash hey gimmi a break im a poor college kid and need some cash to go home for christmas how much were rifles worth

edit

i just looked into it wow

The program is aimed at reducing accidental injury, suicide, domestic violence and celebratory gunfire in the community.

huh?

and they added operational handguns to the list

 

[John Wayne]

paintballdude, not judging you at all. If you want to sell a gun there, I have no problem with it.

But you'd be hard pressed to make money off anything you bought at a pawn shop. The ones around here charge at least $100 for any gun that looks like it might work, and then you pay tax on top of that.

I'm assuming rifles were $50 too, unless they qualify as "assault rifles." If I can find a bunch of broken junk resembling a gun in the next day or so, I might even drive up there.

 

[paintballdude902]

if only lol

if its in any city here in nc asheville seems like the place it would be

 

[Evergreen]

Well Gun buyback IMO is supporting the devil.. I don't give a dang if you get $200 back for your old piece of junk gun.

Basically what a gun buyback is implying is that
A. Guns are Evil
B. Guns Must be Taken off Stret
C. People Should Not Be Trusted with Gun
D. Law Enforcement should Destroy all Guns owned by Civilains


So, those who go to gun buybacks have to understand, even though they are making kind of a mockery of the system, which is good in away, they are still supporting somethign that is inherently evil.

I think we should personally voice our opinion that gun buybacks are evil and inspiring people to have their guns destroyed goes against the foundations of cour country and is unconstitutional.

The only pepole who go to gun buybacks anyhow are people who turn in their old junk guns.. You think a criminal is going to walk into a police station or area with law enforcement and turn in his murdder/stolen/robbery weapon?

Yeah right.

 

[jimmyraythomason]

Evergreen is telling it like it is. Don't support gun "buybacks". Don't sell-out for a few bucks.

 

[kwikrnu]

If you guys don't like buy back programs why not set up in front with a few thousand dollars and purchase weapons for $50 more than the group buying back the firearms? You could inspect and only buy what you thought were not stolen and which appear to be in good condition. You could hand out flyers instructing the sellers how to legally sell their firearms in classified ads to make more money.

I believe most people do not know the rules when selling firearms and they use the buy back as a simple way to get rid of a firearm they do not know how to use, consider dangerous, or just do not want.

 

[jimmyraythomason]

It still supports the notion that guns are bad and need to be removed from society. I will not aid them in that. And Yes it is a good way to get rid of an "incriminating" firearm.

 

[Zach S]

If you guys don't like buy back programs why not set up in front with a few thousand dollars and purchase weapons for $50 more than the group buying back the firearms?

They run us off...

 

[kwikrnu]

Next time I see a gun buy back program in Nashville I am going to hand out flyers and take some money.

 

[jad0110]

I remember reading a story here on THR about one of our members who saw (too late to stop it) an elderly lately dump off either a S&W Model 27 or 28 for $50. Gun was probably worth $500 .

I've also heard about people with anti-gun leanings going through grandpa's belongings upon his passing and turning in his prized Luger or 1911 from WWII. Sickening.

 

[Warhawk83]

Originally posted by The Dark Knight

The reality is, if grandson is robbing grandpa's guns for meth money, the family's got bigger problems than gun shows and buyback programs.

They certainly do, but that isn't what this thread is about. I see no reason gun buybacks wouldn't motivate firearm theft. Thief in question gets to take a hot item and sell it, no questions asked, and all evidence is destroyed. As far as gun shows, yeah grandson could do that, but selling an AR CHEAP at a gunshow might turn a few heads, a cop could belong to one of those heads.

 

[strangelittleman]

Asheville....the Seattle of the Blue Ridge Mtns.
I should know, I work in the Asheville area, there's nothing here but inconsiderate bicyclists, hippies, freaks, junkies liberal enviro-nuts and body odor......

 

[Snowdog]

one of the most liberal cities below the Mason-Dixon line.

You're not joking. It's 20 miles up the road from me and the difference between H'ville and Asheville is almost night and day. Asheville is a magnet for freaky hippie types.

 

[toivo]

Why would the meth head grandson wait for a buyback when he could take it to a gunshow and do a private sell though?

The buybacks are supposedly "no questions asked." I don't know about NC, but the guns shows around here (NY State) are chock-full of state troopers who like to ask a lot of questions that meth head grandson probably doesn't have good answers for.

 

[paintballdude902]

toivo yup there are norally a few troopers at my small local one plus the sherif and a few deputies there are always atleast 10 LEOs

 

[FRJ]

I've got two cheap rifles that are broken beyond repair that I leave out for thieves to grab if they break in. At a hundred apiece I would take them to a buy back in a heartbeat. The government wants to spend good money on junk I'm more than willing to sell to them. FRJ

 

[jimmyraythomason]

Yep $200 cheap publicity for gun control.