"Assault weapons were designed for trench warfare."

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The Thompson submachine gun was designed as a "trenchbroom" for WW1 use. It never got there because the war ended before they could be shipped.
And yes, the Thompson was not an "assault weapon," since it uses a pistol round not an intermediate power round, but then again the Sturmgewher that was the first assault rifle didn't come around until WW2
There was also the famous Chauchat ........
 
The United States employed quite a few Winchester '97s and 12s - pump shotguns - as trench warfare weapons, too.

I don't think you can find a firearm in existence that was not once designed or employed as a weapon of war.
 
*Laugh* :D

Gotta love the moron politicians who say "WE HAVE TO BAN GUNS BECAUSE OF insert stupid reason"


"Do you know anything about stupid reason given?


Followed by lame politician trying to avoid answering, looking stupid, getting flustered, and finally answering "No," making something up, or running the show out of time and avoiding answering.
 
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Shouldn't private possession of folding shovels be banned? After all, shovels CAUSE trenches.
 
There was also the famous Chauchat ........
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It wasn't so bad a weapon in French 7.5mm. It just couldn't handle 30-06 very well, especially with the mud that can get into the mechanism, but that what happens when the Generals refuse to use the BAR because they didn't want the design to fall into the hands of the Germans and so kept them all away from the front.
 
It wasn't so bad a weapon in French 7.5mm. It just couldn't handle 30-06 very well, especially with the mud that can get into the mechanism, but that what happens when the Generals refuse to use the BAR because they didn't want the design to fall into the hands of the Germans and so kept them all away from the front.
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7.5mm French didn't exist during WWI. The WWI Chauchat was chambered for the 8mm Lebel, and except for the relatively small output of one contractor, the quality of the 8mm guns was despicable. Even on those few well made guns that SORT of worked, the design was egregious. It's a long recoil gun. That means that most stoppages take place with the chamber inaccessible, requiring the gun to be at least partially disassembled to clear a stoppage. I have a very good book on firing WWII automatic weapons that covers this in considerable detail. Italian machineguns were the worst mass produced guns of either war. Any Italian gun is 100 times better than the Chauchat.

Not only were US troops mostly denied the BAR, they were denied the Lewis as well, mostly for petty personal reasons. While the Lewis had problems, it didn't have 1/100 the problems of the Chauchat. We were still using the BAR in the late '50s and early '60s. The French had mostly ditched the Chauchat by the mid '30s.
 
It wasn't so bad a weapon in French 7.5mm. It just couldn't handle 30-06 very well, especially with the mud that can get into the mechanism, but that what happens when the Generals refuse to use the BAR because they didn't want the design to fall into the hands of the Germans and so kept them all away from the front.
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I had forgotten about that part of the BAR's history...always struck me as sad really. You make a weapon so good that you can't use it for fear it would fall into the enemy's hands...
 
Was it Atwater (sp?) the historian that was told you could use some of the parts from the Chauchat to make a still?
 
Assault weapons were not designed with trench warfare in mind. Except for sieges, stagnant trench warfare that characterized WW I was not practiced in the war to save Europe from facism. Assault weapons, or the German sturmgewehr, was designed to give the soldier great firepower. The reduced intermediary cartridge was in recognition of the less than 400 yards distance than most battles were being fought. Additionally, it allowed the soldier to carry more cartridges because it was lighter than the full power cartridge.
 
Man !!! this is insane !!! a heat seeking bullet ??? How a TV can broadcast such bull**** ???

It's like saying that pigs can fly !!!
 
We were still using the BAR in the late '50s and early '60s.
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We had BAR's in my unit in Vietnam in 1971. I never elected to carry one, was to heavy and IMO not as relieable as the M16

How a TV can broadcast such bull**** ???
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Thats the reason the news media is loosing viewers and the newspapers loosing readership. The news articles all have a spin on them to make them news worthy
 
LOL...."snort"... heat seeking bullets

I gotta go and find something to wipe this key board off with now.

heat seeking bullets thats rich
 
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