Primitive tribal warfare "modernized" with assault weapons

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From the Telegraph, London (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...03.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/09/03/ixworld.html):

Tribal rows used to be settled by bow and arrow, now it's an M-16

By Nick Squires in Mount Hagen

(Filed: 03/09/2005)

A thousand tribal warriors, bodies glistening with pig fat, faces daubed with black and red ochre, swarmed on to a muddy arena in headdresses and grass kilts.

They were armed with lethal-looking axes and spears. Tucked into their belts were daggers made from the bone of the cassowary, a giant tropical bird related to the emu.


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A tribal warrior from Papua New Guinea

Beating drums and chanting war songs, the warriors, some with pig tusks through their noses, were the highlight of the Mount Hagen Show, a tribal gathering held annually in the highlands of Papua New Guinea.

The show is one of the world's most exotic anthropological displays, but in recent years there has been a bloody resurgence in real life tribal fighting, fuelled by political intrigue, a breakdown of law and order and the arrival of automatic weapons.

"They used to settle disputes with bows and arrows, now it's with assault rifles," said Philip Alpers, a New Zealand academic who last month addressed the country's first national gun summit.

"There's been a massive increase in lethality."

Papua New Guinea is a former British colony which passed to Australian control in 1906. It is an uneasy confederation of more than 800 tribes.

Clan warfare has raged for millennia, but the introduction of powerful automatic weapons has made the age old system of "payback" far more deadly and made parts of the highlands utterly lawless.

Feuds can last months, even years, in a country in which allegiance to "wantok", literally "one talk", the pidgin English term for a person's language group or tribe, is paramount.

Late last year the government, fast losing its grip, invited Australia to send in 140 police officers as part of a £400 million aid package to cope with crime, corruption and tribal warfare.

But Canberra withdrew the force after a judge ruled that they did not have immunity from prosecution.

The Australians did not fulfil their deployment to Mount Hagen, the largest town in the highlands.

Matthew Gispa, 28, is just one man who might be relieved they didn't. He proudly recalls the moment he pulled the trigger of his

M-16 and killed one of his tribal enemies during a recent clash in Aviamp, 25 miles outside Mount Hagen.

"He had a gun too, so if I hadn't shot him he would have shot me," he said, a razor-sharp machete in his hand. He now fears retribution from the opposing clan. "They will come back. And they will try to kill me."

As with most tribal disputes, the fight started after a disagreement over land, but the issue has been intensified by the country's rapidly growing population. Gispa says he is known to police but has not even been questioned about the murder, let alone charged. Many police officers are corrupt, while even the honest ones are hamstrung by a lack of resources.

"We don't even have enough diesel to go out on patrol," said one sergeant, gnawing on a stick of sugar cane. "We don't have enough vehicles, firearms or radios. Many times we just have to let them fight it out."

Many weapons used by tribal fighters are bought or stolen from the police and the army. Of the 10,000 or so small arms supplied to the two forces in the past 20 years, only a quarter can still be accounted for.

Tribes are now using self-loading rifles and hand grenades. "Traditionally, when people were fighting with bows and arrows, they would stop after one or two people were wounded," said Nick de Groot, a Dutch missionary and director of the Melanesian Institute.

"But now you have 15 or 20 people dead in two days."

According to Mr Alpers, politicians are "deeply implicated" in the gun trade, providing their own clans with high-powered weapons. Elections are seen as an opportunity to seize political influence at gunpoint.

It is hard to establish the total number of people killed because much of the fighting goes on in remote valleys, cut off from the outside world. Local hospitals believe 90 per cent of deaths go unreported.

In one of the larger documented battles around 120 people were killed in a fight between two rival tribes near the flash point town of Mendi.

"It's become an arms race," said Robert Bruce, a British anthropologist who has witnessed several tribal battles since settling in Mount Hagen 15 years ago. "When I first came here there were maybe a few shotguns being used, but recently I've heard the sound of rocket-propelled grenades."
 
sounds a little like NOLA, doesn't it? at least the area near the convention center.

or maybe inner city Detroit, or west LA.

i expect we'll see more of this in coming years & decades, even in the US.

fascination with the idea of 'tribes' runs high.

i work with college-aged kids a fair amount, both as college-level teacher and a musician who's associated with college age composers, bands, djs.... tribe is a notion that runs strong there.

i have several friends way into football, either collegiate or professional. they speak of their 'tribes'. they dress it, paint their face in the tribal colors, and relish the ritualized gladiator violence on the field.

and of course, the old testament is full of stories about tribes, so even fairly conservative Christians tend to let their imagination run there at times.

i have little doubt that, given circumstances like those in NOLA, with too little food and water and no fuel, tribal rivalries could boil over even in this country.

i've often thought, what an interesting time to be alive. not always pleasant, but at least interesting.

but, imo, ice cream, baseball & frisbee were a hell'uv'a lot more fun than tribal warfare.
 
Judging from the photo and story line, it seems to me that one could do a pretty funny version of "West Side Story" based on the whole doofy scenario.

Where's Leonard Bernstein when we need him?

Or maybe my sense of humor's gone really wrong owver the last weeks... :eek:
 
...in recent years there has been a bloody resurgence in real life tribal fighting, fueled by political intrigue, a breakdown of law and order and the arrival of automatic weapons.
Yes, because we all know that if there was just political intrigue and a breakdown of law and order but those darn pesky automatic weapons hadn't shown up then these people would settle their differences over a friendly game of Canasta and it would be all hugs, kisses and Kumbyah :rolleyes:
 
Actually, the Dani tribes in the highlands of New Guinea have always viewed war as a recreational sport. They always loved going at it with other tribes with these huge freakin spears, but rarely did anyone actually die. If this is true, it may also be a case of these tribes not really understanding the real impact.
 
Bernstein, Gabriel & Zimmer

Where's Leonard Bernstein when we need him?
LOL! :D :D :D

Oh, thanks, i needed that. :)

After the most intense 'oh-so-this-is-what's-next' socio-ecological week in decades, laughs are much appreciated. Leave it to someone from San Fran, (sez another west coast resident).

Actually, my current musical tastes run more towards Peter Gabriel than Leonard B, (sez the percussionist). Still, point taken.

Closer to Bernstein than Gabriel is composer Hans Zimmer, who did an incredible (understatement) sound track for a several-part TV series circa 1992 called "Millenium: Tribal Wisdom and the Modern World".

It would serve nicely as background music while reading this thread. (Hmmm. Maybe i'll put it on.)

Track 4 of that CD - specifically, the second orchestral crescendo of track 4 - has been THE piece of music used to judge every sound system i've purchased for the last 10 years. That includes both home stereo systems AND 6,000 W professional systems.

Trust me on this: for that track, you want the biggest, baddest subwoofers you can afford to feed with large quantities of electricty. It will rock your walls.
 
lazy & tired of smiling

We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.
my response to that,
over several minutes,
represented with emoticons,
in order:

:scrutiny:

:)

:D

:cool:

it's cool to read of poets
that are also gun owners.
 
Interestingly, these savages often suffer from a form of "mad cow" or (sp?) Creutfeld Jacov Disease. They get it from eating the brains of slain enemies. I'm not making this up.
 
I thought that was mainly from eating dead relatives and is confined to women and children since they are limited to eating the leftovers.
 
It's a cultural thing...

This culture has not evolved a method of sorting out differences, law, order, and justice that everyone can live with.

The result is innevitable, whether the tools are rocks or phasers.

Since they haven't achieved those critical elements of civilization in the last couple of millennia, the ugly truth is that the choice is to either impose it from above, or let it run its course.
 
I thought that was mainly from eating dead relatives and is confined to women and children since they are limited to eating the leftovers.

You need to do some research. Organ meats are considered delicacies...not leftovers

I don't want to get into a cannibalism how to here but you have to reverse Darwinism. The food source being the same species...diseases are easily transmitted. Therefore, the slow and sick of the prey are to be strctly avoided. Healthy victims in their prime. Well done. Very well done. :barf:

As far as eating organ meats, that's the way to avoid vitamin deficiencies in a diet lacking vegetables. Liver, heart, brains, kidneys, etc.

Wonder if any of the cargo cults are still going in the area?
 
OK, so now they have rifles.

There were PLENTY of very deadly wars before rifles were invented. But I suppose now war is OK if it is done with generations onld equipment?
 
Do NOT use the term "Assault Weapons" please.
Actually, an M-16, assuming that it's the real version with da switch, is just that. At least they're using the term right for a change.
Robert Bruce, a British anthropologist who has witnessed several tribal battles since settling in Mount Hagen 15 years ago. "When I first came here there were maybe a few shotguns being used, but recently I've heard the sound of rocket-propelled grenades.
First off, RPG does not stand for Rocket Propelled Grenade. That's one of my pet peeves. Second, exactly what anthropologist is it who can identify, by sound alone, an RPG?
 
Natural Selection by any other name?

I always got a giggle out of the "Save the Earth" weenies, as I believe the Earth will save itself. Stupid, unsuccessful species will sort themselves 'out' one way or the other in the long run, I guess. :evil:
 
Azrael256 said:
First off, RPG does not stand for Rocket Propelled Grenade.

The RPG translates to both English Rocket-Propelled Grenade and Russian as Raketniy Protivotankoviy Granatomet, "a rocket anti-tank grenade launcher".

From Global Security.

Guess it's a good thing I don't speak Russian, that's a mouthful.

"Big Tire, Rubber" was also how we remembered what BTR-60 stood for. ;)

Just thought I'd put this up for the rest of the people that scratched their heads and tried to figure out what RPG actually DID stand for.

S/F

Farnham
 
Sounds like New Zealand. The Maoris there were constantly fighting, and after European contact they escalated their fighting in what are called the "Musket Wars."
 
Many weapons used by tribal fighters are bought or stolen from the police and the army. Of the 10,000 or so small arms supplied to the two forces in the past 20 years, only a quarter can still be accounted for.

thing is, the UN crowd will probably be using this as evidence for expanding global gun control, and villify US gunshows as the world's supplier of weapons of war. Thing is no sort of gun control matters if the corrupt cops and military are selling their arms
 
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