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Buck Kramer

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My grandmother recently moved to a nursing home for better care and while we were cleaning out the attic we found a pair of Remington model 12a's. They are not consecutive serials and appear to be from different years. One of the rifles seems to be newer because of the stamp at the base of the barrel and the barrel has been counter-bored (not professionally) both the rifles fire but one of them is missing the inner mag tube. I am looking for information on refinishing and restoring them, several screws are missing and the actions fall back without the release being pushed. Let me know if you have dealt with these or have any tips, enjoy!
 

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Hello friends and neighbors // These were great Gallery/Carnival guns and some have been drilled out to reduce accuracy.

Numrich arms has many parts but I would check the bore before ordering any.
Here is a Schematic: Remington_12_schem.jpg

They are take down rifles but the action can come out when taken down, be ready.

Mine is from 1911, 90% and looks to have similar features.
Remington can date it for you by phone, 1-800-243-9700 and they have barrel codes on their website.

Good luck getting them going.
 
You can get new wood for these guns as I have my grandfathers model 12. Search the internet for parts.
 
Weisners gun parts has a schematic and some parts for the 12's.
I bought a basket case 12 , and got it up and running, they are fun little rifles!
 
I've had a couple of these Remington Model 12s over the years. Haven't worked on one in awhile though.
We bought 2 one time and used one to fix another that belonged to a friends father. We also relined that one.
I had one that was kind of used and had a Marbles tang sight on it. Had another that had a worn bore, but the end of the bore was good. This one shot pretty good.

And I had another noce one that I had to let go.

I might have an inner mag tube (if I can find it), but I do have the end piece that locks it in place. I had a parts gun that wasn't worth completing and sold the parts to Numrich for beer money.

There was a bolt for sale on E-bay.
 
It is possible that you have enough parts between the two guns to come up with one in good working order. As has already been suggested, first check the bores on both guns. Use the one with the best bore as your build gun. If neither bore is satisfactory, you may have a problem. Many gunsmiths do not recommend relining the bore on the model 12 due to the way the chamber end of the barrel is constructed. I believe you mentioned both guns would fire? If you have actually test fired both guns, give the bores a good cleaning and test fire for accuracy.

A word of caution here, if the action does not stay locked up when you raise the barrel, make sure the pump action is held securely all the way forwards. Also, use standard velocity ammo - no high velocity.

As far as the failure to lock up is concerned, you will note the presence of a slotted recess in the bottom of the receiver just in front of the trigger. The part you see there and that normally is pressed upwards to release the pump action is the cartridge lifter (called a carrier). If you break the gun down by loosening the takedown screw and remove the stock/trigger assembly from the receiver, you can see that the outer magazine is attached to what is called an action bar that extends into the receiver. In the end of that bar on one side is a long narrow spring loaded part called the carrier dog. When you slide the action to the rear, the carrier dog engages a slot in the carrier and causes it to lift the cartridge into position for chambering. When you slide the action all the way forwards, the dog locks in behind the carrier to secure the action and bolt assembly for firing.

If your slide action drops without pressing the carrier upwards, then most likely there is wear on the face of the carrier dog and/or carrier where the dog locks behind the carrier. One or both of those will have to be replaced.

From looking at the end of the outer magazine tube in the one gun, it may be too damaged to use.
 
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