Attn Georgia members whose CCW has taken longer than 60 days to be issued

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Sent an email to the NRA (per the indicated address on the referred-to thread). Here's the reply:

Thank you for your inquiry. In 1978, the NRA Board of Directors established the NRA Civil Rights Defense Fund to become involved in court cases establishing legal precedents in favor of gun owners. To accomplish this, the Fund provides legal and financial assistance to selected individuals and organizations defending the right to keep and bear arms. If a case is of a certain character, it is possible to receive funding through the NRA Civil Rights Defense Fund.

There is an established procedure for determining whether to fund a case. Applications for assistance must be submitted by an attorney for discretionary review by the trustees of the Fund. The NRA Office of General Counsel does not have an attorney licensed to practice law in the State of Georgia. However, we do have an attorney referral service available to NRA Members. We can provide NRA Members with the name and contact information of an attorney(s) licensed to practice law in Georgia. If you would like to take advantage of our attorney referral, you may contact us at 703.267.1250. While we are ethically allowed to make such a referral, please note that fee arrangements and expenses are the personal responsibility of the individual seeking legal advice, and that the NRA does not make any specific recommendation or representation of expertise on the part of the attorney to whom the member is referred.

The NRA Civil Rights Defense Fund is a not-for-profit entity established under § 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code and has specified guidelines for submission of cases. Cases presenting compelling, unsettled, or new issues of law are of special interest to the Fund. The trustees normally meet three times a year: in the late spring, fall, and winter. The Fund will next meet on September 15, 2006. A request by an attorney for litigation funding should be submitted not later than 30 days prior to the meeting in which the request is to be considered. Late submissions will be considered only upon emergency.

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Someone know who to ACTUALLY contact to join in this case?
 
Georgia CCWs

From working around and with the system in Georgia I can firmly state that permits are entrenched in the Probate Judge's office. If you ever tick off a probate judge you can take to the bank the knowledge that IF you are issued a permit it will be frather down the road. Much farther.
 
Passed the 60+ day mark so I sent in my info to the NRA.

Amazing that I can get a Class 3 weapon purchased, processed, and transferred faster than Georgia can issue me a CCW :mad:
 
Who do we contact for this? I emailed as indicated and got a generic form letter back that sounded like they didn't know what I was talking about.

My GA CCW wait has now exceeded 90 days. Within that timeframe I ordered AND received a silencer (standard slow BATFE processing included)!
 
Georgia CCP

Wiley; He's not in Georgia. He's stationed at NAS Belle Chasse in New Orleans.
With the atmosphere in the military he wants to be legal there. He can apply for a Louisiana CCP or, if he has one in Georgia he can carry on it in Louisiana.
 
I decided to call the probate court a few minutes ago to inquire about the status of my permit. It has been about 112 days. She said that she still hadn't heard anything from the GBI. She also stated that a new law went into effect on July 1st that had an affect on the way the system works. It of course made it slower.

She said she hated the system and would love to be able to keep the whole thing within the county. (We're a small county in the sticks.) The real kicker came when she told me that there were people who applied in Feburary that she still hadn't got the results from.
 
Jawja Permits

When the system works it works hard. My youngest boychild is a United States Marine. He's stationed in New Orleans at NAS Belle Chasse and his home of record is in Trenton, Georgia.
6 Months ago he applied for a Georgia Concealed Carry Permit, which will also stand in Louisiana, and was given all the routine hoops to jump through. He went home last weekend and went to the Probate Judge's office where he affixed his fingerprint and was issued his CCP. He is golden. I admit that the fact that I retired from the city PD after 25 years got him face time with the judge, but also the judge applied logic and law and he got his CCP in good time.
The delay was caused by his not being home since 6 months ago. He had to be there in person to get the paperwork.
Georgia's a damned good place.
 
Georgia

My son is in New Orleans...The home area for him is in the extreme northwest corner of Georgia. Dade County has Alabama on the west side and Tennessee to the north...An interesting aside: Dade County was known as the Free and Independant State of Dade from the early 1800s until the mid 1940s. They succeeded from the state of Georgia because they were so far from Atlanta that Georgia took no interest in them and until the 1930s you had to drive into Tennessee or Alabama to get into Dade County. They "came back into Georgia" in the waxing years of the second World War in order to help fight for the Nation. The county was named for Major Francis Langhorne Dade, the individual for whom Dade County, Florida was named. He camped in Dade County, Georgia on his way south to the Seminole Wars wherein he was killed.
 
I applied for my carry permit on March 10 of this year. I was told it would take 90 days. I called the Probate Court Clerk yesterday, and was told that it still hasnt made it back to them, and was given the phone number to the Sheriff's office. I called them, and they told me that the paperwork was sent to the Probate Clerk last June 13th! Now, I'm being told that I have to go back to Probate and fill out all the forms again, and go back to the Sheriff's office and be fingerprinted again, and all of it would have to go back to the GBI for another background check.... I asked how long it would take, since they 'lost' all the originals.... get this!!....... 90 days!!! They did tell me though I wouldn't have to pay the fees again.... :cuss:
 
Georgia

Carl...I know it's business as usual. In my son's case the sheriff and the probate judge are professional acquaintances of mine. He's Marine enlisted and about to be commissioned a 2nd john and they probably take that into their decision. SMALL town politics. I have been retired in New Hampshire for nearly 10 years and the renewal date for permits is the date yours expires...no early grace period. If you renew and commit the sin of asking why so long...tacks on another week. 2 weeks every four years I carry with no permit.
 
I went down july 17th and went thru the whole process again to renew mine because after july 1st this year the new law is you have to get fingerprinted again to renew.I still haven't got it back.i have untill oct 11 before it expires.
 
shooting time, when you applied on July 17, did you have to give your SSN? Also, did they issue you a temporary GFL?
 
Yes they asked for my ss# and no temp was issued.I was asked to sign the form the girl behind the desk asked me all the questions and typed them in the computer then printed out the form and i signed it went to sheriff's and got fingerprinted.The whole process was just like I never had one and was applying for the first time.
 
Cherokee County

I ran into something three years ago that I thought was strange but apparently normal procedure.

When I turned 21 I got my first permit in Baldwin county. The process was easy but it did take about 90 days to get the paper.

When I moved back to the city, we ended up settling in Cherokee county. In order to get a 'renewall', I had to go through the approval process all over again. They said there was no transfering between counties. Not sure if there was a lot of truth to it, but that's what happened. I never really looked that deep into the issue.

Since my experience was 90 days to get my last one, I figured at least that or longer because it was happening in a metro county.

I got a phone call in 1 week. Nice.

My wife went through the process about a year later and got hers in three weeks. YMMV...
 
Cherokee County = the city? :)


There is no need to get a new license just because you moved. The license is good for five years even if you move out of state.

With that having been said, many counties will issue you a new license with a new address for $5.00 (same fee as a lost license).

As for the renewal issue, though, was this since July 1? If so, many of the probate courts are pretending there is no such thing as a renewal license anymore, because of a new law that inserted the words "renewal license" half a dozen or more times. No, I am not kidding. As a result, they are refusing to issue temporary licenses.

Look here http://georgiacarry.org/cms/?p=8

And here http://georgiacarry.org/cms/?cat=5

Oh, and here http://www.georgiapacking.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=949 (3 pages)
 
I just called the probate office in paulding county and asked how long for a renewal I have been waiting 65 days now they said it now takes 120 days and no temp permit will be issued
I hink I will apply for my Florida permit now and see if I can get that any quicker.
 
I'll repeat something I said on calguns.net in reference to the CA Dept. of Justice:

When there's no penalty for breaking the law, following the law becomes an inconvenience you just don't need to bother with any more.

Sure, the law says 60 days. They take longer than 60 days. Guess what? Nobody will go to jail, or be fined, or be censured. You might get a court order telling them they must act within 60 days. When it still takes longer than 60 days... what will happen? The court will render an even angrier decision? Fine the department? Whoopdeedoo... it comes out of the taxpayer's pockets.

At least you guys can get CCWs. I'd kill to be able to get one after a 4 or 6 month wait.
 
I think I will apply for my Florida permit now and see if I can get that any quicker.

You will get your Florida permit much quicker...but it won't help you.

Once you become a resident of the state of GA (as in have a GA drivers license) any other permit you hold in respects to reciprocity is out the window. The GA code clearly states that you must have a valid GA permit to carry in GA if you are a GA resident.

This crap with the 120+ days for renewal with no temporary permit is out of control - I'll be contacting my State Senator to see if he can get something moving to make some changes and slap the probate court system back into compliance.

" A person licensed to carry a handgun in any state whose laws recognize and give effect within such state to a license issued pursuant to Georgia law shall be authorized to carry a handgun in this state, but only while the licensee is not a resident of this state; provided, however, that such license holder shall carry the handgun in compliance with the laws of this state."
 
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