auto-eject glock

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i had a real eye opening experience last night. had a glock 19 with a +2 magazine in a don hume holster owb on my side when i got into my toyota corolla car (cramped with butt about two feet off the ground). anyway, as i sat in the seat, the butt of the glock hit the seat belt clamp (sturdy little bugger). no problem, i thought, just hook the seat belt and get driving. a short time later when i got out of the car i noticed bullets and magazine parts lying between the front seats. what the heck?? so, i gathered up all the ammo and parts, brought them into the house (someone else's house) and put everything back together.

when i got to my house i got online and searched for "glock mag ejections". found out this is a fairly common occurrence. now i know. i put the non-+2 mag in the gun and leave the +2 mag as the spare.

learn something new every day. at the time i felt like barney-one-bullet. good thing i keep a bug on me all the time!

murf
 
i think youre mistaken.. glocks are infallable supernational devices that never fail.. you must have limp wristed it as you tucked it into your holster
 
so i've been told! i would have believed that if it happened one day earlier. could have blamed it on the trick-or-treaters.

murf
 
im not a glock fan personally and never will be.. theres this delusion about them that testing shows they dont actually live up to as they seem to fail torture tests as often as most its competitors.. but mention that to their rabid fanboys and you'll never hear the end of it.. its blasphemy to suggest they could ever malfunction... i think it has more to do with some very successful marketing campaigns and the general assumption that if police use them they must be the best or something, i dont know... i'll stick to steel framed weapons
 
I put three +2 extensions on my Glock 23 mags about 10 years ago.

I fumbled and dropped one on the carpeted floor after loading them.
And the base plate blew off and shot cartridges & mag parts clear across the living room.

They were all three in the trash and the OEM base plates back on 15 minutes later!!!

rc
 
i'm new to drinking the plastic koolaid. decided to take the plunge last april. the gun has been great otherwise: fits my hand, feeds all different kinds of ammo, surprisingly accurate and tough as nails.

i guess the thing that bothered me most was being, essentially, unarmed when i thought i was armed.

murf
 
i think i'm going to convert the +2 back to stock, rc. really don't need the auto-eject feature during a mag change. thx for the tip.

murf
 
rcmodel said:
I put three +2 extensions on my Glock 23 mags about 10 years ago.

I fumbled and dropped one on the carpeted floor after loading them.
And the base plate blew off and shot cartridges & mag parts clear across the living room.

They were all three in the trash and the OEM base plates back on 15 minutes later!!!

rc
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My experience exactly. User modified magazines of all ilk have been, and always will be, range options only.
 
justin,

bought the gun used. it came with the holster and two mags, one with the extension. i don't need the extra rounds. been running a bhp with thirteen rounds for over thirty years now. so, i guess, i'm running +2 without the extension!

murf
 
i guess the thing that bothered me most was being, essentially, unarmed when i thought i was armed.
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Plastic dont even make for a good club either...:evil:
 
OK, admittedly, I'm not a Glock fan either. However, you can't really bag on the guy for his Glock failing when it was an aftermarket part failure. Have you ever heard of a factory magazine failing like this? I haven't.

Yeah, they're ugly and some people love to hate them. But, they work.
 
Messing w/ Perfection?

Not a fanboy, but as one who keeps a G19 handy for defense, I wouldn't go modifying the springs, magazine, trigger on a totally functioning pistol. When you do that in my jurisdiction, it is no longer allowed on your CCW permit. You basically open yourself up to a lawyer saying you made it into a "race gun". Now if you want to carry the altered mags as spares, that is well and good, but for me I'll stick to OEM parts. For more reliability and increased capacity, carry spare G17 mags. Much more reliable than any aftermarket modification :)

Changing out the crappy factory sights is a suggested improvement. But plz, KISS!
 
It doesn't sound to me like the mag ejecting is what happened, but... the basepad came off and dumped the contents?

Was the basepad really installed correctly? Are you sure?

That said, stock Glock basepads normally take channel locks, a screwdriver, and several minutes of cussing to get them removed. That is what I would stick with on a carry gun for sure.
 
bama drifter, from reading prior threads this +2 extension is an oem part that used to be sold by glock. per those threads, this was a common problem and glock now sells another mag extension. i don't need an extension and it will disappear as soon as i get the stock bottom plate.

ny32182, you're correct, the extension, mag parts and rounds ejected out the bottom leaving the mag shell in the gun. the extension was installed correctly. the retainer pin was sticking out the bottom of the extension prior to the auto eject.

murf
 
murf said:
justin,

bought the gun used. it came with the holster and two mags, one with the extension. i don't need the extra rounds. been running a bhp with thirteen rounds for over thirty years now. so, i guess, i'm running +2 without the extension!

murf
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i intend to get a BHP soon as well, however they do make flush fitting 15 round mags for the hi power, and the grip of the pistol is about on par with a compact with only a 5" overall height so there are even 17 rounders with base pads for the BHP that make the pistol no taller than say a CZ-75
 
"Magazine ejecting" would normally just mean that the entire magazine came out of the pistol via the mag release button being inadvertently hit. This has happened to me with a S&W Shield and a pocket holster that apparently didn't protect the mag catch button well enough. It looked pretty well protected, yet one day I took it out of my pocket and the mag was no longer seated. Say goodbye to that holster.

If the magazine comes apart like you said, something is seriously wrong. Either the basepad wasn't locked in place via correct seating with the little subplate thing, or, the basepad design is completely unsuitable for carry. I haven't looked at a Glock+2 pad in a while, but don't remember them having a protruding button for removal? But I guess they could. If I saw such a button, I would automatically never use that magazine for carry.

Stock/flat Glock basepads are very sturdy and a serious PITA to get off even when you want them to come off. They would certainly be a better carry option than anything with a disassembly button sticking out of the bottom.
 
Ah, I was unaware Glock offered other base pads.

My experience has only been w/ the Pearce grip extensions that add a couple rounds mag capacity. At any rate, stick with standard Glock 17 mags or the new Magpul G17 mags and you should have no complaints. Just my $.02, YMMV.
 
ny32182, my other mag has the flat base plate and is in the gun right now.

bama drifter, i have a g19 and am happy with the 15 rounds. oh, those prior threads i found didn't have good things to say about the pearce extensions, either.

murf
 
Ive been carrying Glock for almost 20 years. I was a LEO firearms instructor and the agency I worked for went exclusively to Glocks in 1998. I was involved in training nearly 400 agents. Using the Glock or Pearce mag extensions, properly installed, I never saw a magazine base plate come off as other cheaper ones will. You need to ensure the disassembly button is seated in the hole of the baseplate and doesn't extend out of it.

This is based on seeing hundreds of mag extensions in use.
 
GRIZ22 said:
Ive been carrying Glock for almost 20 years. I was a LEO firearms instructor and the agency I worked for went exclusively to Glocks in 1998. I was involved in training nearly 400 agents. Using the Glock or Pearce mag extensions, properly installed, I never saw a magazine base plate come off as other cheaper ones will. You need to ensure the disassembly button is seated in the hole of the baseplate and doesn't extend out of it.

This is based on seeing hundreds of mag extensions in use.
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whyd they go exclusively to glock?
 
Justin, the agency's switch to Glock was the result of extensive testing by the national firearms staff (federal agency). These were gun guys not your typical bureaucrat. They weren't trying to take a cheap way out as Sig, H&Ks, and Walthers of that Era (middle 90s) were also tested. Starting in 1988 or so we changed standard issue guns about every 10 years. Issue guns would have about 10,000 rds through them over 10 years with qual and training.

The "exclusivity" was the idea of our new Commissioner at the time. He was some what of a control freak and wanted everyone to carry issue firearms. Prior to him there was a long list of approved handguns. Agent owned firearms came back to a lesser extent when he left.
 
I have about 40 or so Glock mags, some factory, more that are the Korean mags, all have the standard bases on them, and none have been a problem.

I use the Korean mags weekly in practice, and they get used hard and sometimes abused, and still have yet to be a problem.

The only time I did have problems, was with the Pierce extensions installed on a couple of Glock 26 mags. Between the mags being somewhat finicky, not taking "+2", pinching my hand while shooting and reloading, not to mention going in the wrong direction and making the gun bigger than necessary, they didnt last long. The factory baseplates have been on ever since (about 7 years now), and no other problems. I carry the 26's with a factory ten rounder, and a 17 reload.

Ive dropped partially and fully loaded Glock mags on hard surfaces, on numerous occasions, and never had a base plate come off, or even a round come out the top. My experience has been, the plastic mags hold up better to this type abuse, than the metal mags Ive dropped/dumped that landed on hard ground.

Now I did have one gun that repeatedly dropped its mag either on the seat, or on the ground as I got out of the car/truck, and that was an HK P7M13. But that was related to the mag release being hit by the seatbelt as I was driving. The only holsters available at the time, didnt take into account the P7's mag release, and were poor designs.
 
thanks for that, ak103k. where do you pick up those korean mags?

murf
 
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