Auto-Ordnance M1 Carbines Shipping

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Auto-Ordnance M1 Carbines Shipping
By Frank Harris
Kahr Arms of Worcester, Massachusetts, is now shipping the AOM160 Auto-Ordnance M1 Carbine, a .30 caliber rifle with a black polymer folding stock and metal perforated handguard.

The Auto-Ordnance division of Kahr Arms began production of an M1 Carbine replica in 2005. The Auto-Ordnance AOM160 retails for $792.

The overall length is 36.5 inches and a compact 27.5inches when folded. The AOM160 has a post front sight, flip style rear sight and includes one 15 round shot stick magazine. The Auto-Ordnance AOM160 weighs 5 pounds.

Markings include the following: Auto-Ordnance, Worcester, MA behind the rear sight; U.S. Carbine, Cal. 30 ML on the receiver in front of the bolt and the serial number is engraved on the left side of the receiver.

The M1 Carbine came into popularity during WWII, offering troops a better defensive weapon than a pistol or submachine gun, with great accuracy and range but without the recoil or weight of a full-power infantry rifle.
 
I'll pass. My gunsmith warned me against buy an AO M1 carbine. He said that ever since they were introduced, there's been a steady flow of them coming to him due to broken parts and cycling problems. He says they're junk and he's very good at his job. I'd take a Mini-14 over the AO any day.
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I was warned against AO too but that was before Kahr took over and I've heard nothing but good things about Kahr.

Still haven't shot any so take that for what it's worth.

-Russ
 
Right, but you can get a NEW one from Auto Ordnance... Is everything supposed to be interchangeable?
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Its still a copy, if you want a "new" one buy cmp for less than change the barrel.....if it even needs it, Oh and no alot of the parts are not interchangeable with the GI's and the commercial carbines
 
I'll pass. My gunsmith warned me against buy an AO M1 carbine. He said that ever since they were introduced, there's been a steady flow of them coming to him due to broken parts and cycling problems. He says they're junk and he's very good at his job.
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At this point, I would have to agree with this statement. A few years ago I was given an AO M1 as a gift. It has a few problems cycling, HOWEVER, there was a decent sized crack in the stock year the rear take down screw. I have since 2-part epoxed it and will soon hopefully see if it performs any better.

I'm assuming yes since the crack caused the rear screw to constantly be loose and the cycle/feed problems seemed to go away every time I tightened the screw.

Big-5 now has surplus Carbines for $999. I wonder if they know CMP prices?
 
The only cycling problems I have had with mine was Wolf ammo. I like mine and haven't had any problems with mine in a year of ownership.
 
My AO carbine was $560 in spring of '06, and hasn't given me any serious problems. Its been an accurate and reliable milspec rifle since day one. It wont gain any value, but Thats because I didn't buy mine to hang on the wall, it actually does what its made for.
 
I've had mine since 2004, and nothing of what I've read from the naysayers has rung true. In over 3000 rounds (mostly my own loads, but also several hundred softpoints from Georgia Arms), it's performed extrememly well and accurately. I'd buy it again. Beyond that, for my uses (plinking, small game hunting), I'd pick it over a USGI carbine any day of the week.
 
Buckeye Tim

RNB65 said: "You should do more research. I've got a Kahr handgun. I'll never make that mistake again."

RNB65: I have a Kahr PM9 for concealed carry, and its a great weapon. Light, accurate, easy to handle, very concealable, great sights. Perfect for what its designed for. Don't know which Kahr handgun has given you problems. I doubt its a PM9.

As far as the newly built AO M1 Carbines, I have two of them: an older walnut-stocked version I got from a gun show a couple years ago, and one of the new folding polymer stock versions I picked up about a month ago at a gun show. I have not had a problem with either one of them, though I've only had the polymer stock version out to the range one time. I've probably put 1500 rounds through the first one. They are fun and accurate weapons. I acknowledge that I would have preferred to have gotten an original, war built carbine, but the price for them seems to have gone through the roof over the past 2-3 years, especially for anything that is in any type of decent shape (which most of the ones I've seen definately are not). And if I could find a really nice WWII era carbine that I could actually afford, I'd be reluctant to take it out as often as I'd like to. Everyone has to decide what suits their intended purpose best. But for me, after burning through a couple of boxes of .303 in my SMLE, and a few clips in my M1 Garand (both originals), its fun to round out my time at the range (and give my shoulder a rest) with the AO carbine. Accurate, fun and (so far at least) completely reliable. Happy shooting!
 
I'm happy with my AO carbine. I had a problem initially w/ feeding and ejecting but it was a magazine (the factory mag). All I did was take it apart and put it back together. Since then it has functioned flawlessly.

I wanted a GI originally, but I was a bit short on cash for it so I went with the AO sitting on the rack. My only gripe is that I don't like the flip sights, other than that I am totally satisfied with it. I still want a GI, but if I had no other options I would pick up another AO.
 
I went CMP and got an Inland service grade for $495. Shoots fist sized groups at 100 yards, and looks great. Go buy the AO rev Moon carbine, leaves more GI carbines for me.
 
CMP is sold out of all their service grade m1 carbines and are not accepting any orders. I'll pass on the rack grade and pay the extra $100.00 for a new AO. As a matter of fact I did, about 2 months ago, and have put over 1000 rounds through it with no problems. This is my second AO gun. I also have a Thompson 1927 A-1 deluxe that is great to fire. I got them at the same time. My favorite rifle though is my M1 Garand, but as was said before , it's nice to give your shoulder a rest once in a while.
 
CMP still has a good supply of Inland Service grade ($495), and Underwood Service Grade ($565).
On the CMP carbine forum, there are many who swear by the rack grades.
I picked out my service grade Inland in person at North Store. Not only did I get a great GI carbine which is fun to shoot (and makes a great HD weapon), but my $$'s went to a good cause.
 
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