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End of gun ban has little effect in state No increase reported in crimes using previously banned arms
BY J.L. MILLER / The News Journal
09/18/2005The predictions were dire. The expiration of the 10-year-old federal assault-weapons ban would flood the streets with AK-47s and other weapons of war.

With the one-year anniversary of the expiration of the ban passing quietly last week, the reality has proved much less grim. The assault-weapons ban went out with a whimper, not a bang.

Although precise figures are not available, police in Delaware have not reported an increase in crimes committed with previously banned weapons.

And area gun dealers say they have not seen an increase in demand, possibly because so many guns that had been legally manufactured before the law remained on the market through the decade-long ban.

But proponents and opponents of the legislation, which Congress declined to renew last year, remain divided on whether it accomplished anything -- and whether it should be reinstated.

"A year later, I still certainly feel we need the ban," said Sarah Brady, the Dewey Beach resident who founded the national gun-control group now known as the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

"Thank goodness we haven't seen any huge increase [in shootings]. That doesn't mean there isn't one around the corner," said Brady, whose husband, former White House press secretary Jim Brady, was seriously wounded after a 1981 assassination attempt on President Reagan.

Another key player in the gun-control debate also lives in Delaware: John Sigler, a retired Dover police captain who is first vice president of the National Rifle Association and the likely successor to its president, Sandra S. Froman.

"I'm not surprised there hasn't been much effect," Sigler said.

The assault-weapons ban's 10-year sunset provision, he said, "was a test, an experiment if you will, and during the course of that 10-year experiment, [then-President] Clinton's own Justice Department came to the conclusion that the ban would have no effect on the criminal use of firearms."

Delaware authorities do not keep track of the type of firearms used or recovered in crimes.

But, state police troopers have been involved in incidents that led to the arrest of people using weapons that were classed as assault rifles.

"Over the last year we've had four incidents where we recovered assault rifles," state police spokesman Lt. Joseph Aviola said. "That's down two from [the previous] year."

Detractors of the ban say it was merely cosmetic. The law banned combinations of such military features as flash suppressors and bayonet lugs, but the weapons themselves remained essentially unchanged.

The ban also played on a popular misconception "that somehow a semiautomatic firearm was synonymous with a fully automatic firearm," the NRA's Sigler said.

Fully automatic firearms, which fire a steady stream of bullets for as long as the trigger is held, are severely restricted under federal law and are illegal in Delaware.

Semiautomatics, the guns that were covered under the assault-weapons ban, fire one shot each time the trigger is pressed.

The ban also outlawed newly manufactured ammunition magazines holding more than 10 rounds -- and gun-control advocate Brady finds that perhaps the most disturbing aspect of the ban's demise.

"To me, I don't care cosmetically what [firearms] look like. It's what they're capable of doing," Brady said. "That's the problem, the problem being that you don't want the ability to fire many, many rounds very, very quickly."

Brady also fears that the expected congressional approval of legislation to shield firearm manufacturers and dealers from many lawsuits will prompt gun makers to unleash a new wave of increasingly deadly products.

"Now they're going to be immune, so that means Nellie bar the door," Brady said.

Sigler, though, called that prediction "more scare tactics."

Brady remains hopeful that the political pendulum, which has swung sharply in favor of gun-owners' rights in recent years, will swing again.

"I guess I'm an old enough broad, I've seen it swing so many times," Brady said. "The younger folks that work in my office, they get so downhearted, it breaks their heart when they see the way things are going. I tell them it will get better."

Meanwhile, John Massey, owner of Shooter's Supply in New Castle, is doing a brisk business -- in hunting equipment, not quasi-military rifles.

"We do a little bit of [business in assault-type guns], but it's not our main deal here," said Massey, who will order such a weapon if a customer asks.

"We prefer to carry the higher-quality guns," he said.

Contact J.L. Miller at 678-4271 or [email protected].
 
"the expected congressional approval of legislation to shield firearm manufacturers and dealers from many lawsuits will prompt gun makers to unleash a new wave of increasingly deadly products."

I can't wait to start buying those.
 
will prompt gun makers to unleash a new wave of increasingly deadly products

For immediate release to the media:

"Ruger announces the first civilian suitcase nuke" :eek:

Be the first one on your block to have one. :D

Fun at all parties, especially the 4th of July. :p

Your neighbors will be talking about your fireworks display for years. :evil:


:rolleyes:
 
:rolleyes: Where to start ...

"A year later, I still certainly feel we need the ban," said Sarah Brady, the Dewey Beach resident who founded the national gun-control group now known as the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.
Which is so much more important than thinking. :rolleyes: At least thety properly labelled than as a "gun-control group."

"Thank goodness we haven't seen any huge increase [in shootings]. That doesn't mean there isn't one around the corner," said Brady
It also doesn't mean that there isn't a Martian around the corner.

But, state police troopers have been involved in incidents that led to the arrest of people using weapons that were classed as assault rifles.
Zee propagana campaign has verked! Zey cannet tell zee difference!

Detractors of the ban say it was merely cosmetic.
We're not even given the dignity of being call "opponants." We're merely "detractors."

Fully automatic firearms, which fire a steady stream of bullets for as long as the trigger is held,
But only when used with those uber-evil "infinate capacity" magazines. :rolleyes:


Brady also fears that the expected congressional approval of legislation to shield firearm manufacturers and dealers from many lawsuits will prompt gun makers to unleash a new wave of increasingly deadly products.
Riiiiight. :uhoh:


"Now they're going to be immune, so that means Nellie bar the door," Brady said
I thought it was Katie's job to bar the door. :confused:


"I guess I'm an old enough broad, I've seen it swing so many times," Brady said. "The younger folks that work in my office, they get so downhearted, it breaks their heart when they see the way things are going. I tell them it will get better."
Not old enough yet. You're still here.

Freedom breaks a young tyrrant's heart. :barf: Too bad. :neener:
 
I wonder if Sarah was "shocked" to find out that smoking cigs causes lung cancer? Apparently not, as she continues to smoke, even though she's been diagnosed with and treated for lung cancer. What a wizard!
 
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"Thank goodness we haven't seen any huge increase [in shootings]. That doesn't mean there isn't one around the corner," said Brady,
Keep the faith Sarah, I'm sure there'll be a mass shooting any day now. In the mean time get some old footage of the Columbine massacre and play it for the youngins in your office, to remind them of better days past and yet to come.
 
"That's the problem, the problem being that you don't want the ability to fire many, many rounds very, very quickly." :scrutiny:

That statement is proof that anti-gun bigots are able to sell their BS based upon the fact that 90% of the public does not understand the subject. As anyone here knows, there are tons of rifles out there that were not banned that fired the same amount of rounds the same way as the ones that were banned.

And BTW, I think we saw in New Orleans the utility of having a firearm onhand that can fire 30+ rounds. A shotgun isn't much use against a looting mob.
 
"To me, I don't care cosmetically what [firearms] look like. It's what they're capable of doing," Brady said. "That's the problem, the problem being that you don't want the ability to fire many, many rounds very, very quickly."
Maybe she'll get that included in the next gun control law passed. It will be illegal to fire more than one round every 30 seconds (LEO excluded of course). All violence will be magically solved as criminals step in line to follow the law! Blissfulness at last!
 
Question: Why do elephants have red eyes?
Answer: So they can hide in cherry trees.

Follow on question: Ever see an elephant in a tree?
Answer: Nope.

Conclusion: See, it works.

I just wish she'd think instead of feel.
 
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Wishful thinking?

"Thank goodness we haven't seen any huge increase [in shootings]. (but....) That doesn't mean there isn't one around the corner,"

That sounds so much like wishful thinking on her part that it scares the bejeebers out of me.

I can actually imagine those people getting all excited and coming into the Brady office early the day after a school or mall shooting, all excited about the prospects of having a purpose for the next few weeks for their jobs and the fund raising opportunities it presents them with.

Man, that is just so sick!

How about honesty Sarah? "I guess the assault weapons we tried to takeoff the streets weren't really much of a real threat after all."

Now, go merge your few remaining VPC/MMM employees wth the American Cancer Society or other worthwhile life saving cause and do some good.
 
Meanwhile, John Massey, owner of Shooter's Supply in New Castle, is doing a brisk business -- in hunting equipment, not quasi-military rifles.

"We do a little bit of [business in assault-type guns], but it's not our main deal here," said Massey, who will order such a weapon if a customer asks.

"We prefer to carry the higher-quality guns," he said.

Cause last time I checked, Bushmaster, Colt, DSA, and Rock River were about the level of Hi-Point quality wise. One thing about these media types is their ability to find one of our own to sell us out. You read this and you think that these weapons were your typical zync cheapos.

"Thank goodness we haven't seen any huge increase [in shootings]. That doesn't mean there isn't one around the corner," said Brady, whose husband, former White House press secretary Jim Brady, was seriously wounded after a 1981 assassination attempt on President Reagan.

Darn the luck Ms. Brady. Its too bad us wackos don't take one of our AKs and shoot up the place so you can use it for your agenda. Statements like this make me think you celebrate that type of behavior, but with your pinko mindset things like that only benefit the common good. Right comrad.

That's ok, maybe tomorrow will be the day that the AKs and ARs flood the streets. Hopefully when it happens I will have gotten up early enough to pick me out a nice commando (you know with the 5.5" flash hider attached) and a AK-74. I've always liked that 5.45X39 round.
 
"I hereby stipulate that from now on, red is an illegal color because a wondering Spanish bull might see you on the pavewalk of your street and gore you horribly! You never know when a bull is just behind the corner!"
 
Cause last time I checked, Bushmaster, Colt, DSA, and Rock River were about the level of Hi-Point quality wise. One thing about these media types is their ability to find one of our own to sell us out.
Doesn't take much looking, most people are so terrified of being criticized on TV that they just tell interviewers whatever they think they want to hear.

PS:
HOW ABOUT THEM STEELERS ???????
Yinz sum ahta tahner jagof n'at? It's HA BAHT DEM STILLERS!!!!
 
This is actually one of the least idiotic, least unbalanced, and least inaccurate articles about guns and gun control I have ever read in a mainstream newspaper.

Sarah Brady comes off like an idiot, but at least they put her diatribes in quotes. Most newspapers seem to print her nonsense as if it were straight objective fact.
 
Quote: Sarah Brady:
"Thank goodness we haven't seen any huge increase [in shootings]. That doesn't mean there isn't one around the corner," said Brady, whose husband, former White House press secretary Jim Brady, was seriously wounded after a 1981 assassination attempt on President Reagan.

Quote: Hawkmoon:
"It's extremely unfortunate that we haven't seen any huge decrease [in shootings]. That doesn't mean there isn't one around the corner."

Ummmm, so ... :confused:
 
"the expected congressional approval of legislation to shield firearm manufacturers and dealers from many lawsuits will prompt gun makers to unleash a new wave of increasingly deadly products."

I can't wait to start buying those.


hell yes.
 
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