jonboynumba1
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Well I got my new 580-series mini out again yesterday for some fun. I wasn't going to shoot anything but quallity ammo (and mostly handloads at that) through it but we had just got a shipment of cheap stinky wolf in (55gr FMJ) so I decided it would be a cheap way to test all the mags out (only had factory 5 rd. first time out) I had half a dozen of the current production promag 20rd blue steel mags one 10 rd. of the same lineage and 3 factory 20 rounders (found the last guy that still had em for 39.95 and bought his last 3)
the ruger mags do have a quallity edge that is undeniable...I will probably buy at least 3 more. They fed flawlessly period....they dang well better at that price!
Promag 20 rd. blue steel - They look almost exactly the same and while the feed-lips are a bit shorter they seem to work just as well...not quite as slick dry feeding ammo through the action but live fire 100% I think possibly adding the slightly beveled/polished ramp-like spots for each shoulder to glide over if bumped down a bit into the mag like the ruger mags would make them just as slick. That said you can't improve on 100% so I guess I'll leave them alone! I shot all mags full loaded to empty them reloaded 5 rounds in each a few times (most malfs are in the last few rounds with rifle mags anyway IMHO) for $15-20 the promags seem like a heck of a good mag...they actually snap in and out better than the ruger mags do. There is actually less wobble that the ruger mags to (only a small amount on them but NONE with the)
Promag 10rd- fed fine but holds 9 if you want it to seat it. The problem upon takedown is the plate under the floorplate is too tick and plastic instead of sheat-metal like the ruger factory 5rd. The factory part is available for $.99 at midway though so that should solve that. Other than that it's fine...they need to adress that issue though...it would be a simple fix for them...somebody probably changed the part after the mag was designed and nobody noticed the impact.
Gun worked flawlessly digesting 250-ish rounds wolf and some american eagle...shot 4-5MOA with wolf 3-4 with AE Did not leave scope mounted much though. What got me was iron sighted I shot it as well as I can my AR with peeps at 100 (I have to aproximate target as I can no longer see the dang dot without a scope-LOL) Several groups ran coffee can sized aprox 5x5" off a shooting bag. Pretty dense in the center of the group...I'm sure someone with younger eyes could do a bit better. That is pretty good for stinky russian ammo though...I was surprised. That was also about as good as it's favorite 2.5-4" ammo when I went iron sighted last time so likely that is just the best my eyes can do.
I was pleased all the mags worked so well...I give the promag 20's a thumbs up -though I still want a few more ruger 20's. The more I shoot the little gun the more I like it...very fun plinker and carries very well. I fine tuned the iron sights a bit this time towards the end. It seems a bit high or a bit low are the option so I went with a couple inched high @ 100 AT 25 yards standing offhand it was a touch high (right over bullseye) about 1.5" but I felt like I was rocking a bit so I may be partially to blame....at 15 it was dead on and shot about 1" group. It apears to not need as big a point blank offset as an AR does thanks to the lower sights
the ruger mags do have a quallity edge that is undeniable...I will probably buy at least 3 more. They fed flawlessly period....they dang well better at that price!
Promag 20 rd. blue steel - They look almost exactly the same and while the feed-lips are a bit shorter they seem to work just as well...not quite as slick dry feeding ammo through the action but live fire 100% I think possibly adding the slightly beveled/polished ramp-like spots for each shoulder to glide over if bumped down a bit into the mag like the ruger mags would make them just as slick. That said you can't improve on 100% so I guess I'll leave them alone! I shot all mags full loaded to empty them reloaded 5 rounds in each a few times (most malfs are in the last few rounds with rifle mags anyway IMHO) for $15-20 the promags seem like a heck of a good mag...they actually snap in and out better than the ruger mags do. There is actually less wobble that the ruger mags to (only a small amount on them but NONE with the)
Promag 10rd- fed fine but holds 9 if you want it to seat it. The problem upon takedown is the plate under the floorplate is too tick and plastic instead of sheat-metal like the ruger factory 5rd. The factory part is available for $.99 at midway though so that should solve that. Other than that it's fine...they need to adress that issue though...it would be a simple fix for them...somebody probably changed the part after the mag was designed and nobody noticed the impact.
Gun worked flawlessly digesting 250-ish rounds wolf and some american eagle...shot 4-5MOA with wolf 3-4 with AE Did not leave scope mounted much though. What got me was iron sighted I shot it as well as I can my AR with peeps at 100 (I have to aproximate target as I can no longer see the dang dot without a scope-LOL) Several groups ran coffee can sized aprox 5x5" off a shooting bag. Pretty dense in the center of the group...I'm sure someone with younger eyes could do a bit better. That is pretty good for stinky russian ammo though...I was surprised. That was also about as good as it's favorite 2.5-4" ammo when I went iron sighted last time so likely that is just the best my eyes can do.
I was pleased all the mags worked so well...I give the promag 20's a thumbs up -though I still want a few more ruger 20's. The more I shoot the little gun the more I like it...very fun plinker and carries very well. I fine tuned the iron sights a bit this time towards the end. It seems a bit high or a bit low are the option so I went with a couple inched high @ 100 AT 25 yards standing offhand it was a touch high (right over bullseye) about 1.5" but I felt like I was rocking a bit so I may be partially to blame....at 15 it was dead on and shot about 1" group. It apears to not need as big a point blank offset as an AR does thanks to the lower sights