baby Glock 26 vs S&W M&P subcompact 9

[springwalk]

How much larger is the M&P subcompact Smith 9 than the Glock 26? I know the sizes are close, but wondering if the M&P can be pocket carried like the Baby 26?

 

[redbeardsong]

Depends on the pockets, I suppose. I think the M&Pc is probably a little too big, though i prefer it over the G26.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

The M&P is about 3/8 of an inch longer on each end and the slide is a little bit wider, perhaps 1/8 inch. Particularly with a finger extension magazine in place, I find it much more comfortable to hold and shoot. It also holds two more rounds (the flat base and extension mags are the same capacity), which doesn't hurt. Neither are suitable pocket guns, IMO. There is a difference between being able to stick a gun in your pocket and being practical to conceal, let alone draw it from, the pocket. (With the gun taking up all the space there is no room left to get your hand around the grip.)

 

[jon_in_wv]

They are very close in size but for pocket carry the extra length in the grip would be very noticeable. The G26 is a little large for pocket carry in my opinion and the M&P even more so. I prefer the extra grip of the M&P over the Glock. It feels much better in the hand. I don't have large hands but there is no way I can make a fist around with weapon and get it out of my pocket very easily. I would really suggest you look hard at a good holster and IWB or belt carry.

BTW, the slide of the Glock is .90 inch and the slide of the M&P is 1.09 a near the rear and the rails and is 1.03 at the narrower portions of the slide. It is also more contoured at the end and thinner than the Glock is on the muzzle. The M&P was originally designed with the .40 s&w in mind so it was given just a little more bulk whereas I believe the Glock was originally designed around the 9mm.

 

[deafdave3]

I didn't know the G26 can be pocket carried.

 

[AZGlock13]

Here is an older picture of my G26 and M&P40c next to each other. Like others have already mentioned the M&P is just a tad larger in most dimensions (hardly noticeable at all). Also like already mentioned, either pistols is a bit too big for jean pocket carry, maybe can be pulled off in large cargo pant pockets (Don't really know, since I don't own any cargo pants). However, both guns are ideal for IWB carry and conceal very nicely when carried as such.

 

[springwalk]

thanks alot guys! As for pocket carry of the 26 I have been doing it every day for over 1/2 year now. I dont own bluejeans, so my cargo slacks do a great job for concealing the 26 in the front pockets. I was wondering about the Smith cuz it has a rail I can attach my tiny Viridian laser for funning around, but I think I'll pass as I'm not too fond of Smith these days.

 

[fastbolt]

G27 & M&P 40c:

 

[harmon rabb]

I didn't know the G26 can be pocket carried.

I can fit my G27 in the pockets of my cargo pants and some of my slacks, so, yeah, it can be done. It's pretty thick though and looks like you have the world's biggest wallet in there. So for pocket carrying something larger than my LCP, I go for my PT709.

 

[fastbolt]

The only time I pocket carry my G26/27 is when I'm wearing a jacket with large pockets. They're just too heavy for the shorts I wear with cargo-type pockets for my desire.

My CS9, while having a slightly taller grip height, has a noticeably shorter and less blocky slide profile for pocket holster carry in the same jacket pockets.

When I'm wearing shorts, jeans or dress slacks and need to pocket holster carry a weapon, I choose one of my J-frames.

 

[jon_in_wv]

I am a huge proponent of a weapon like the G26/27,M&PC/XDsc over a snubby in for defensive use BUT in a jacket pocket is the PERFECT place for a snubbie. The snubbie can rest comfortably in your hand and it can be fired, even multiple times, from the pocket. That is something most autos could not reliably do. All other modes of carry I lean more towards the auto. The subcompact autos of today have it all over a snubbie to me. But you really have me tempted into getting another snubby after mentioning the jacket pocket carry. Not to mention I would like to have a snubby for an upcoming trip to New York. I would hate to have something happen and have them sneer at me for carrying a black killer death machine gun like my M&P 9C or a Saturday night assassin sniper special like my LCP.

 

[chupacabrah]

the m&p9c and the g26 are both fine weapons. when I sold my M&P9 full size to get something a little smaller, I went to the store with the intention of getting the m&p9c...however there was either a $50 or $100 price difference, and I wound up with the glock because it was cheaper. I haven't regretted that, but it is hard to go wrong with either.

 

[jon_in_wv]

Sometimes when I carry my M&P 9C I wish it was a little slimmer and a little lighter. But when I shoot it, neither thought crosses my mind. Its just enough larger that it feels more like a full sized gun when I shoot it. I never feel handicapped when I'm shooting it. The Glocks and XDs just FEEL like a compact gun that takes a little more effort to shoot well. The mag extension on the G26 really makes it feel better but then it evens up the size difference between the two also.

 

[gym]

First thing is not to use the finger extension on the 26/27. You really don't need it, unless your a girl or a very small man. I am 62 and can shoot the crap out of it without the stupid addition that make the gun print. If you doubt my word go and look at Hickock45 on utube, he's well into his mid 60's and can hit "rapid fire" with a 26 or 27 or any other glock "he has them all" out to 80 yards. I'm talking 2-3 seconds on 8-10 targets. No extensions. once you add the extension you cause the pistol to be much larger that you think, that little bitty piece will cause you to print iwb, owb, and ankle holster. What you should do is get yourself some grip covering fron either talon or traction grips. It will keep the gun glued to your hand and you will see a big improvment immediatlly in your shooting and your ability to remove the weapon from wherever you normally retain it. You do not need 3 fingers on those guns, it's just something that has been imprinted in your head. You loose the cocealability of the weapon. I have multiple disk problems and am in my 60's and have no problem emptying a clip from either gun in the black from 21 feet. And I don't go to the range often, they are just easy guns to shoot. So try it and see that it shoots fine without extensions.

 

[engineer88]

My take is the m&p is also snaggier. I know not a word, but put one in your pocket, try to pull it out fast and you will see what I mean.

 

[jon_in_wv]

First thing is not to use the finger extension on the 26/27. You really don't need it, unless your a girl or a very small man.

I don't think anyone needs to be called names if they prefer a secure grip on their weapon. Can't we all just state our opinion WITHOUT calling everyone else's some negative adjective? It doesn't enforce your position or make you any more right. In fact there is a reason most people, I would wager you included, shoots a fullsized weapon or one that fits their hand more proficiently for a reason.

 

[gym]

I didn't say you shouldn't have it, I just said you don't need it. A smaller framed person may need the additional grip in order to get another finger on the pistol, but a 200 pound guy who may think it is going to help him be a better shot really doesn't need it. It's all about trigger time and grip, if you hold the weapon properlly you should not need the additional extension that many people have been swayed into getting. It can actually pull down the firarm and make it less accurate. By engaging the extension you are defeating the design of the pistol. Glock did not make a mistake when they designed the gun. They made it that length for a reason, unfortunatlly knowing the maket they will sell you things rather than have you buy them someware else, think about it and don't be so sensitive.

 

[M1key]

G26, FIST ultra thin Kydex, IWB

 

[easyg]

I didn't say you shouldn't have it, I just said you don't need it.

But they might also like the fact that they get more rounds in the magazine as well as more grip.

 

[larryh1108]

I didn't say you shouldn't have it, I just said you don't need it. A smaller framed person may need the additional grip in order to get another finger on the pistol, but a 200 pound guy who may think it is going to help him be a better shot really doesn't need it. It's all about trigger time and grip, if you hold the weapon properlly you should not need the additional extension that many people have been swayed into getting. It can actually pull down the firarm and make it less accurate. By engaging the extension you are defeating the design of the pistol. Glock did not make a mistake when they designed the gun. They made it that length for a reason, unfortunatlly knowing the maket they will sell you things rather than have you buy them someware else, think about it and don't be so sensitive.

Wow, you sure do know all about every shooter. Maybe you don't need it or a professional shooter does not need it but to repeatedly say it is a waste of time is purely fictional. Not everyone shoots thousands of rounds a month. Not every shooter has the same hand and/or finger strength. Another poster mentioned the +1 or +2 feature and the extension does not alter the rear of the butt for CC and makes it like a bobtail grip. Geez man, you are sure full of yourself. Everyone has their own preference. You have yours and that does not make it right for me.

 

[gym]

Not the shooter just the gun. If you are carrying conceled why add length to the grip, you could just as easily pick up a Glock 19 or 23, get more rounds and have the size you now have. I'm not full of anything, just common sense

 

[jon_in_wv]

Gym, you should go shoot the steel challenge with a G26 and show all those guys how silly it is they use those big bulky weapons when a little old man with a small grip and some simple common sense can show everyone what girlies they are. In the meantime, I will use some common sense and some conventional wisdom to apply what I know. A weapon that allows a proper grip and fits your hand properly will allow you to shoot better and with less effort. Under the stress of actually USING your weapon, as opposed to simple paper punching, you might not have perfect common sense old fart technique and the more forgiving your weapon is the more chance you will have to not suffer severe degradation of your accuraccy under the stress of the encounter. THAT is common sense to me.

 

[piece of meat]

calm down man its only the internet

 

[FotoTomas]

Here is my two cents...

I love the Glock 26. I have two and both are older smooth front models. I often carry them in the front pockets of my trousers using a DeSantis Nemesis holster. I am a hefty boy and big pants are what I need. The G26 works fine for me when necessary.

I will say that I used to carry either a S&W "J" frame model 638 Bodyguard OR the G26 depending on how big the pockets are. Since I purchased a Kahr PM9 that pistol has become my main pocket rocket.

I also use the Glock flat base 10 round magazine most of the time if pocket carried a G26. If I pack it in the Blackhawk Serpa paddle I have the Glock + adapter on the other magazine for a better grip and two extra rounds. I carry a Glock 15 or 17 magazine as a spare.

There was a point when I wanted to look at the S&W M&P line as a replacement for my Glock habit. I bought 4 in the full size and sub compact varieties in both 9mm and .40. Bottom line...they were a little bigger, a little more complicated and not (at that time) as well supported in the after market. I sold'em off and have stayed with the combat Tupperware from Austria.

 

[larryh1108]

Wrong, Gym. I posted the picture to put that notion to rest. The rear of the pistol does not change. The extension does not change the profile of the part of the grip that prints. If you carry the models you mentioned it changes the profile a lot. If you can't see it I'll be glad to post a picture so you can understand that you are wrong.