backpacking rifle

[Boberama]

so what do you think about a .22 upper for an AR, you can carry MORE ammo and you can afford to practice. Since you need to fire thousands of ROUNDS a month to remain compenent,
1. you can practice a LOT MORE
2. You can carry more ammo, that's what I've been Saying
3. Doesnt make much noise, ESPECIALLY with a can on it

Opinions.

 

[41magsnub]

For a .22 backpacking rifle I'd rather stick with a purpose built .22 rifle of whatever make/model floats your boat. It is going to weigh a lot less than a converted AR-15.

 

[TnBigBore]

For a backpacking 22 it would be hard to be a Marlin Papoose or Marlin 39 TDS. Any AR platform would be way too heavy for backpacking.

 

[Robert]

backpacking rifle
so what do you think about a .22 upper for an AR, you can carry MORE ammo and you can afford to practice. Since you need to fire thousands of ROUNDS a month to remain compenent,
1. you can practice a LOT MORE
2. You can carry more ammo, that's what I've been Saying
3. Doesnt make much noise, ESPECIALLY with a can on it

Opinions.

Not really sure what any of that has to do with backpacking. I carry a firearm in the mountains for protection. I usually carry my Marlin 1895G. Short, light and enough power to stop any threat in the mountains around here. Doesn't take more than one or two rounds of 45-70.

 

[Justin]

I agree, that's a fantastic idea, Boberama.

I would also suggest that you should take a barkless Chihuahua with you as well. They make for a fantastic guard dog.

 

[Robert]

I would also suggest that you should take a barkless chihuahua with you as well. They make for a fantastic guard dog.

And a tactical wheelbarrow to haul all the gear.

 

[Rugby8]

It depends where you are backpacking I guess. I always liked the M40A1.

 

[Mainsail]

If you can carry a rifle, you really should lighten the load and hike in farther. There are fewer people and more chances for peace and solitude. If you feel like you need a .22, consider a Buckmark.

As an aside, why do you want to backpack with a .22 rifle? Survival? Why do you want to carry a lot of ammunition in the gun, and why can’t you simply throw a box of Stingers in your pocket?

 

[Mainsail]

Delete double post.

 

[murdoc rose]

Are you back packing in Afghanistan?

 

[Norrick]

if its for survival, then breakdown 22 purpose rifle... something like browning semi auto 22... for "protection" then a handgun would be more appropriate I think.

 

[Andrew Wyatt]

for backpacking, i use a 20 gauge H&R topper with the barrel lopped off short and the forend replaced with a choate storarm. it breaks down real small.

 

[PT1911]

Since you need to fire thousands of ROUNDS a month to remain compenent

Really? I suppose I am nowhere near competent in that case.

you can practice a LOT MORE

and practice is your primary concern while backpacking?

You can carry more ammo, that's what I've been Saying

How much shooting are you doing on a backpacking trip... BTW, you could carry even more ammo if your AR magically turned into a Ruger mkIII.

Doesnt make much noise, ESPECIALLY with a can on it

Again, really? are you that worried about making being tactical and staying hidden on a backpacking trip?


IMO, if you want something that would just be handy and perhaps allow you to do a bit of hunting while backpacking (assuming a long trip) then I would go with a Ruger MkIII.

If you are referring to a survival scenario, an AR in .223 would be appropriate, though I would probably opt for something else as I dont like the idea of a semi-auto in such a case...more moving parts, increased likelihood for malfunction. I would more likely go with a single shot of some sort... for simplicity and easy maintenance in an appropriate caliber/gauge OR a revolver with minimum 4 inch barrel.

For a SHTF scenario, an AR would potentially thrive along with an appropriate sidearm. But that is a new argument...

 

[oldfool]

gotta agree with the guy who said "papoose"
but post #5 is the best laugh I have had all day (all week)

thanks !

 

[MrCleanOK]

Not really sure what you're looking for here (??). ESPECIALLY since backpacking has not much to do with firing thousands of ROUNDS to stay compenent.

 

[Boberama]

i don't think you guys are listening to me - when i'm SPLEEPING i don't want a dog that will BARK - i want one that will silently warn Me.

When you find out I can carry THREE and a HALF times as much .22 as you can carr .223 / SEVEN times as much if you are talking 308. A 10" barrel allows hits out to 250 - 300M and fits in a backpack. Don't tell me about SBR's.

 

[Boberama]

A suppressor is NECESSARY to be un-noticed. Also has these advantages:

1. Acts as a barrel crown so gas pressure is EVEN on the base of the bullet.
2. Add's velocity on some types.
3. Very quiet with a .22.

Wheelbarrow is for disasters. You can carry more, easier to carry
1. Doesn't need to be FED unlike cars, horses, etce.
2. Less exertion, keeps things off the ground.
3. Can carry way more ammo, I don't care what they tell you.

but I'm talking backpacking not disaster.

 

[Boberama]

I'm going on the Ouachita trail in ~1 year pending approval
1. Yeah, it's against my SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS so i can do it anyways.
2. I need survival gear but wheelbarrow was sold. anyways it's backpacking listen to me.
3. A .22 is better, NO ONE should say , oh a .223 is better, NO ITS NOT.
Less ammo = less practice = LESS accurate.
4. if you make a claim you have to back it up.
5.I've given my reasons for the AR, go back and look it up if you can read.
6. how long would you last with 5 or 6 mags worth of ammo?

 

[PT1911]

Once again, why are you worried about being silent and carrying thousands of rounds of ammo on a backpacking trip? If you can find a dog that will come nudge you awake prior to barking, have him call me, I need a good accountant...

Also, I doubt you (or anyone for that matter) can hit ANYTHING out to 300 meters at better than 15% with a .22lr (not sure what you are shooting at this range... def. not sure on a BACKPACKING trip) with a 10 inch suppressed barrel using sub sonic ammo (you want to be silent afterall.) There is nothing NECESSARY about a suppressor. Can they be convenient? Sure. Can they be handy? Yes... Necessary? Definitely not.. I go into the woods every season without one and have not had the first problem yet.

Also, in all of your Oh so extensive and repetitive posts, you have yet to answer any of the questions asked.... scratch that... we know it is a backpacking trip... We still dont know why you need thousands of rounds of ammo to hike, why you anticipate needing a suppressor to hike, why you insist one must shoot thousands of rounds a month to maintain competence, how much practicing you plan to do while hiking (also contradicts your "necessity" to remain unnoticed as thousands of pops will not go unnoticed.)

In short, your post makes no sense.

This is like throwing rocks at a capped barrel.

 

[Boberama]

If youre interested in backpacking on a ~200 mile trail you should check out the XM-177 and the conversion for it ( 30 shots' .22)

Remeber the stopping power of the .22 is IMPRESSIVE! the bullet is lubricated on the outside and causes wounds to become infected!

It may also bounce around inside a targets skull or even in their ribs.
For example, if it went into a coyotes skull it could easliy remain INSIDE and bounce around causeing further damage!

don't underestimate it. old methods of stopping power are obsolete there are many Other factors.

 

[Boberama]

No pt 1911 listen to me! the suppressor obcures your LOCATION, especially with subsonic .22 ammo!

what would you rather have, 1000 rounds of .22 ammo in your backpack, thats 7.7 POUNDS, or only 285 rounds or 223, or ONLY 135 rounds of 308.

I don't think so, you'd want the .22s. you need to practice. And from an 11~10 inch barrel flash is SUBSTANTIAL with larger cartridges.

prepare for the situation, not for a VIDEO GAME.

 

[PT1911]

Remeber the stopping power of the .22 is IMPRESSIVE! the bullet is lubricated on the outside and causes wounds to become infected!

And at this statement, I walk away shaking my head.

 

[Boberama]

bring MYLAR BLANKETS, very warm. Also if you accidently shoot yourself with a .22 you're less likely to die, you can FIRST AID it.

I suggest a back brace, i use a Muller 250. If you have slipped or bulged discs it's invaluable.

Remember to prepare, be READY to encounter coyotes, mountain lions, and BEARs.

 

[Boberama]

pt 1911, if you were a coyote would you be more scared of being shot by a clean .223 or a dirty, bouncy, .22?

You aren't digesting my arguments, and i don't think you are the backpacking type.
I need a suppressor so I don't alert a BEAR if I'm just taking out a coyote so there.

 

[MrCleanOK]

This is like a NASCAR crash. Can't. . . . look. . . . . away. . . .