Backpacking/trail shotguns

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I was carrying a .45 here in Alaska for bear, that is until I saw how a .45 penetrated on a dead bear. I now carry a glock .40, much better penetration and I have seen it take a bear down. You could consider the 10mm but I went with the 40 because of how hard it is to find ammo for the 10.
 
A shotgun is a TERRIBLE backpacker's gun. Gun and ammo too big and heavy and cumbersome for the power and capability.

Being afield is different. I HAVE kept a 12 ga. 18-1/2" Mossberg with Winchester 3" Magnum Plated 000 Buck in Alaska nearby (but backpacked with open eyes, bells, bear-spray and a five-shot 3" + compensator .44 Mag w/Buffalo Bore low-recoil hard Keith semi-wadcutters).

CONUS in bear country? Occassionaly, a 2-1/2" + compensator .357 with Federal hard Core-Cast Vital Shock semi-wadcutters. I have prepared for this, and just bought an old, unused, Savage .22 Mag/20 ga. O/U on a whim -- I'd be confident in that and it seems pretty versatile but am really not gonna "backpack" anything with a stock unless I'm near the Mexican border. As likely to be a customized 18-1/2" .22 Mag takedown pump gun in the pack (which is also in my trunk) or a 20" .22 Mag lightweight scoped stainless bolt in the hand if I had to carry a long gun for no specific reason (which I really wouldn't except for shtf/bugout/general survival). Its kinda an odd premise actually. The more I think about it, I suspect the OP has never really backpacked and probably camps at numbered sites -- is that correct?

My purpose-bought backpacking gun? YEARS ago!? An 11-oz. stainless 4" barreled five-shot .22 Mag holstered in a belt pack, loaded, plus 10 spare (Federal 50 gr. FMJ) cartridges in a rubbery "coin-purse" in my pack. Mine was the first dual-cylindered of these guns and NAA and I got a little ink in the backpacking press at the time.
 

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I don't understand the concept of asking what other people use, then whining about the answer. But OK, here's MY backpacking shotgun and what I use it for:

I don't carry a backpacking shotgun. If I'm hunting I may, depending on what I'm hunting, but if I'm just backpacking there's no reason to carry a shotgun. I always carry a handgun for defense, and I might bring along a little .22 rifle to do some light hunting for the stew pot. No reason for a shotgun. That's MY carry, so you can't complain about MY choice. Since MY choice is to not carry a shotgun. The closest I might go would be an M6 Scout over/under .22/.410 or MAYBE an over/under .22/.410 or .22/20 gauge such as the Savage 24. But I don't own either of those at the moment so I don't carry them. Since there's really only one reason to carry a shotgun backpacking. Hunting. For any other uses there are better choices.
 
I was carrying a .45 here in Alaska for bear, that is until I saw how a .45 penetrated on a dead bear. I now carry a glock .40, much better penetration and I have seen it take a bear down. You could consider the 10mm but I went with the 40 because of how hard it is to find ammo for the 10.
Interesting. I usually carry a .40 as well, since I have 3. Bears are not much of a concern in my area, though I have run into small black bears in the woods before. What do you think is the best .40 load for bear (penetration)? I'm guessing an FMJ?
 
A fleece vest
lightweight poncho (rolls up into a small ball)
1.5l water
Water purification tablets
crystal light packs
3 cans food
Can opener and spoon
Change of clothes, with an extra pair of socks and underwear.
First aid kit
550 cord
2 survival blankets
fire starters
2x lighters
Mosquito repellent
Sun screen
Hat
Roll of toilet paper
Shovel (cold steel model with sharpened sides, also works as a hatchet)
Flashlight with spare battery.
12ga Stoeger Coach gun
30 rounds of ammo, mix of buck and slug.

No knife/knives? and 30 rounds? You defending a fort?

I don’t understand this paranoia that if you step ten feet off the pavement every animal over 40 pounds is going to start hunting you. Seriously, carry a firearm if it makes you more comfortable (I do) but if you’re so afraid of nature you believe you need a long gun, it might be better (for everyone) if you just stayed on the paved surfaces.

Well put.

It is the same paranoia that has folks hiding guns in every room of their house, including the shower, or thinking they need 2 or 3 guns on them, with spare ammo, every time they step outside
 
As I’ve said in any of the dozens of bear threads, there are thousands of hikers crawling over trails here in the Pacific Northwest, and the vast majority of them are unarmed. I’ve read several hike reports so far this spring where the hiker or backpacker saw a bear, in some cases with cubs. The bear couldn’t be any less interested in the hiker. If they see, smell, or hear you coming- they are going to be moving away from you and you’ll never even know it was there. Cougars generally don’t hunt people, although they are known to stalk them. Goats can be aggressive, and we had one goat related death on the trail last year. Nevertheless, you cannot legally shoot a goat just for following you. Elk and deer attacks are even less likely. We don't have wild hogs, but they would make me nervous. So you’re going to point your shotgun at….what?

I don’t understand this paranoia that if you step ten feet off the pavement every animal over 40 pounds is going to start hunting you. Seriously, carry a firearm if it makes you more comfortable (I do) but if you’re so afraid of nature you believe you need a long gun, it might be better (for everyone) if you just stayed on the paved surfaces.
AMEN
 
I had a friend that packed a plastic stocked 'snake charmer' shotgun in his kit.

Never saw him use it, it was just part of his normal 'kit'. He kept it stashed in a scabbard on his pack. Doubt he had more than 5 shells. He didn't hunt with it or use it as 'bear defense' it was strictly a survival tool.
 
Savage 24 gets my vote. I take it when I go to the woods and have no idea what I might see. Mine is a 22WMR over 20GA with a sling.
 

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Interesting. I usually carry a .40 as well, since I have 3. Bears are not much of a concern in my area, though I have run into small black bears in the woods before. What do you think is the best .40 load for bear (penetration)? I'm guessing an FMJ?
I recommend this one from Double tap, it is a good round for hunting and protection.

Double Tap Caliber : .40 S&W
Bullet : 200gr. Wide Flat Nose Gas Checked
Ballistics : 200gr. @ 1050fps / 490 ft/lbs- Glock 23 (4.0"bbl)
Glock 22 4.5" bbl - 1106fps
Glock 27 3.5" bbl - 1009fps
 
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