Bad AD today..not me. kinda explicit.

[C-grunt]

So I got a call to a hospital to take a report from a guy who AD'd in his house and blew off half his hand. He was cleaning his Glock 22 when he forgot to take the round out of the chamber. When he pulled the trigger he sent a .40 Winchester Ranger into his left palm next to his thumb and exiting the side of his hand below his pinky. The exit wound was a little bigger than a quarter.

I went to his house to check and see if his neighbors were alright.....to see if the round had exited the house. I was able to follow the massive blood trail from the car port back to the master bedroom. He was sitting on his bed when he AD'd. The round went through his mattress and embedded itself into a brick wall. around the entry hole in the mattress was a lot of blood, burned powder, and multiple little pieces of flesh and bone.

Overall it could have been a lot worse and hopefully he will not lose a whole lot of function in his hand.

I just wanted to share this story to remind everyone during the busy season to always keep your mind on what your doing when handling firearms. Safe shooting.

 

[mr hanky]

Scary! Thanks for the safety share. Awareness is important!

 

[Fisherman_48768]

....Overall it could have been a lot worse and hopefully he will not lose a whole lot of function in his hand.

...blew off half his hand.

I think he lost half the function at least.

 

[1911Tuner]

Although the guy clearly violated the rules...I'll never understand why Glock would design a pistol that requires pulling the trigger in order to field-strip it.

 

[mister2]

Not the first, won't be the last. Not for users with short attention spans.

 

[News Shooter]

A guy I know did the exact same thing. Missed his wife by a few inches

 

[rocket lad]

I'll never understand why Glock would design a pistol that requires pulling the trigger in order to field-strip it.

The Springfield XD is the same way - makes me nervous everytime I strip it...even after checking the chamber 3847394872 times first.

 

[Robert Hairless]

Is there a way to fieldstrip a cocked-and-locked Model 1911 without pulling the trigger at some point?

Standard procedure for fieldstripping any semi-automatic handgun is to remove the magazine, then rack the slide two or three times to make sure any chambered round is ejected, then look and poke a finger into the chamber, then look and poke a finger into the magazine well. It's standard for Glocks too.

That fellow who shot himself with a Glock 22 might have been a BATF agent taught by Lee Paige.

 

[armoredman]

I worked with one who did that, took him three months of therapy to get the use of his hand again. Another one I worked with blew off his index finger the same way - we called him Frodo after that.

 

[HammerBite]

'll never understand why Glock would design a pistol that requires pulling the trigger in order to field-strip it.

That is true of pretty much any striker fired pistol that is field-stripped by moving the slide forward off of the frame. The slide can't move forward off of the frame if the striker is engaged by the sear. If the striker is held back then the slide is also. I don't know of any striker fired pistol that has the means to decock the striker, except by pulling the trigger. Keep in mind also that decocking the stiker would have to be done very gently -- the striker would still end up resting on the primer if a round is chambered.

If someone would come up with a design that would allow you to remove the striker and spring from the rear of the slide as the first step of field-stripping, that would solve the problem.

 

[D-Man]

I don't know of any striker fired pistol that has the means to decock the striker, except by pulling the trigger.

With the S&W M&P line, you have a sear lever (I think that's what it is called) that you can lower by using a finger or the tool and pushing down on it from the top of the ejection port. I like this method, though if you really want to, you can still pull the trigger.

 

[rluening]

HK P7 Series

If someone would come up with a design that would allow you to remove the striker and spring from the rear of the slide as the first step of field-stripping, that would solve the problem.

The P7 series takes care of these worries.

/rl

 

[Charles S]

Is there a way to field strip a cocked-and-locked 1911 without pulling the trigger at some point?

Yes.

This list will not be inclusive however, neither Beretta; the BHP; CZ 75 series; Sig P series; or S&W 1rst, 2nd, and 3rd generations require the user to pull the trigger to field strip the gun.

 

[Robert Hairless]

Tell us how to field strip a cocked and locked Model 1911 without ever pulling the trigger, Charles?

 

[PTK]

This happens quite a bit, unfortunately. Complacency = disaster waiting to happen.

 

[buzz_knox]

People shot themselves while "cleaning" weapons long before the Glock was invented, and probably before Gaston was born. Sometimes, they actually did screw up while cleaning. Others, that's a code word for a suicide or goofing off.

Tell us how to field strip a cocked and locked Model 1911 without ever pulling the trigger, Charles?

Why would you need to pull the trigger on a 1911 to field strip it? You drop the mag, drop the safety, work the action to be sure it's empty, and then go to work on the recoil spring guide plug.

 

[jcramin]

To prevent something like this from happening, BECAUSE I know accidents do happen, I never clean or even unload my fire arms unless my wife is around. I then unload and check and make sure all rounds are out, then I show my wife and let her check to make sure all rounds are out. Just a safety measure for me.

J

 

[Charles S]

Tell us how to field strip a cocked and locked Model 1911 without ever pulling the trigger, Charles?

Drop the mag and remove the round in the chamber, check and re-check the chamber.

Move to the front of the gun, press down on the recoil plug, turn the bushing, allow the plug and the spring to come forward and remove. Then move the slide back to line up the slide lock removal hole, remove the slide lock, and then move the slide forward off the frame. The gun is now field stripped and you have never pulled the trigger.

 

[TX1911fan]

Tell us how to field strip a cocked and locked Model 1911 without ever pulling the trigger, Charles?

I just did it. In fact, a 1911 HAS to be cocked in order to field strip it. When you move the slide back to allow the slide stop to be removed, it cocks the hammer, so you can just leave it cocked. If you don't want to, you don't have to pull the trigger after the slide is removed either. You can simply clean with the hammer cocked and then replace the slide.

Robert, what are you trying to get at. Do you field strip a 1911 some other way?

 

[1911Tuner]

That is true of pretty much any striker fired pistol that is field-stripped by moving the slide forward off of the frame.

I understand that...but Gaston Glock is sharper than that. Looks like he would've come up with a way...

 

[strat81]

Who cares about pulling the trigger? You should not attempt to clean a loaded gun anyway.

And Tuner had it right in the beginning:

the guy clearly violated the rules

 

[buzz_knox]

I understand that...but Gaston Glock is sharper than that. Looks like he would've come up with a way...

When he was designing the Glock, he asked various professionals want they wanted in such a weapon. Apparently, making it idiot proof wasn't in the requested specs.

The Glock isn't the best weapon for those for whom the phrase "you can't fix stupid" was coined.

 

[bhp9mm]

why did he not have the slide back before he started clean it and check if it loaded i check my guns 3 times are more to make sure they are not loaded.

 

[TX1911fan]

I dry fire all the time, so I am in the habit of checking my guns to see if they are loaded, but also NOT PUTTING MY HAND IN FRONT OF MY GUN BEFORE I PULL THE TRIGGER. If you remember ALL the rules, violating one out of necessity will not result in injury. THis guy broke all of them. That's what get's you hurt or killed. It's not the gun, it's the user. Unless we want to say "gun's don't kill people, people kill people, unless you are cleaning your Glock, then it's the gun's fault."

 

[Beatnik]

1. All guns are always loaded.

Well, he broke that rule.

2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.

Broke that one, too.

3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target.

And that one....

4. Be sure of your target and what lies beyond.

Whadda ya know, he broke all four rules!

To anyone who has not heard this before:
This was not an accidental discharge. This was a negligent discharge.

Why does this happen so often? It's not rocket science. You just have to not stick your hand in front of the pistol when you pull the trigger. Not to sound like I don't care that the guy blew his hand off - but what's so bloody hard about that?