bad karma smith 686-use or lose?

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See what you think about this-years ago--mid 80's, I think, I bought a 686 4' barrel-back then, I was in law enforcement and had a built-in excuse to buy gear. Nyway, sold it to a friend and loaned him my vintage 870 for hunitng season. His brother broke in his place stole all his good stuff, including guns, including my 870.

Well, the SMith turned up, but the 870 never did (somebody's patrol car trunk, maybe?). The Smith had been used by a drug dealer to kill two snitches-she took off running, emptying the remaining rounds at the chagrined agents who herard the 2 BANGS on the wire, and then threw it down a flight of concrete stairs at them.

They got her, got the gun, and now she's in for life, all appeals over. He got the gun back and gave it to me to make up for my precious 870.

First, it's not the weapon's fault, but I am not sure how I feel about this. Second, is this a pretty good revolver, as a rule? Appears the serial # is 64757-I don;t how QC was in that part of the run.

I had been considering an older Smith 19 or a Security Six (I love both!) for car, CCW with enough clothes, backup home defense, and trail gun, BUT this one is back. Needs some strong polishing and a couple of screws are buggered. The sideplate may need replacing-having looked at its condition up close yet. Need the crane examined, too, can't tell if sprung or if too much space from frame whn closed. Barrel looks good, needs cleaning, but no damage, and the forcing one seems AOK. Of course, might as well have the timing checked while I'm at it.

So, I could probably do this for less that an old Smith or Security Six. The 686 is a bit bigger but probably ok for its intended uses, anyway, and that might be a couple more hundred dollars for a good Mauser or Glock. ANy thoughts?
 
The 686 is a fine revolver, and very handy in the 4" barrel.

If it were mine, I'd send it back to S&W for full repair, along with the fact that I had been a sworn peace officer, etc., and have them fix it. You should be pleased with the returned revolver.

JMHO. L.W.
 
As a certified space cadet, I'll go with the bad karma theory. I'd sell it ASAP, then smudge the house to remove the bad vibes.

And, no ... I am NOT joking.
 
Sell it

My advice is sell it. You will never forget the history of that weapon. I still have a pistol that someone very close to me attempted suicide with, stopping only when I dove across the room and ripped the gun from their hand. I would rid myself of it, but guns don't grow on trees, at least on my budget.
Also, do you want to be known as the guy with the "killer" weapon to your friends and family, some of whom may have a distaste for guns? It would be a very sticky argument to explain why you still own it to someone who doesn't like any gun to begin with.
All that being said, I don't believe there's anything inherantly wrong with your gun, except that it's a revolver.:p
 
Get it fixed. If you're not happy with the results you can always sell it and get something else. However, I wouldn't let superstition be factor in my decision making if I were you.
 
Assuming I feel ok about keeping the weapon, does anybody know of any issues, good or bad, with that run on the serial number?
 
Years ago a middle aged woman walked in to the store with a very nice 4" Highway Patrolman in a paper bag and wanted to sell it for, I think, seventy-five dollars. Her husband had used it to commit suicide and she didn't want it around. I paid her what it was worth wholesale and kept it for a couple of years. It is my strong belief that people do have karma and objects do not. Essex
 
At the risk of sounding contrarian, let's examine the nature of the "karma" of the pistol: Why are we jumping to the conclusion that it has "bad" karma?

A couple of points:

1) This revolver has "seen the elephant" and come through shining. You know it'll do what it needs to when the chips are down. Is that a bad thing?

2) It took care of three bad people: Two snitches got it, and the real bad person is doing life. Is this a bad thing? (I am assuming the snitches were also serious criminals merely working off a couple of cases, if not, then maybe this doesn't apply)

I have a buddy of mine who's a police officer. One of his fellow officers transitioned from a revolver to a Glock and promptly shot the tip of his index finger off while trying to field strip it prior to cleaning. My buddy bought the Glock for cheap after the previous owner went back to his revolver. I told him that he should be careful, now that his Glock "had tasted blood". Funny, it's been a great pistol that hasn't bitten it's owner again.

Seriously, guns are machined steel. Anthropomorphising them plays right into the hands of ignoramuses who want to ban them for being "evil". They have no soul. They are inanimate objects.

However, that said, on another thread I've argued that guns do have an "ethos" of design. I think that these two concepts are quite different.

-John
 
Idk man, ive seen bad karma in boats, like people who change the name of a boat and they get grounded the same day, etc. But i would take the gun anyway, since i a gun nut and can never have enough.:evil:
 
I think it's a cool story.. lot cooler than a suicide. I mean yeah it's sad when guns are used to kill people but it's still a pretty interesting story. And if you believe in karma somehow resting in metal then I don't see how you could feel good about selling that to some unsuspecting buyer. I say get it fixed up, and shoot all that bad karma out of it. (Maybe just don't keep it on the nightstand)
 
Tis a Tool.
Used badly, but still works
Like a Screwdriver or a pair of pliers.



Shoot it and find out what it really is like.

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why do they call pilers pairs???
 
Karma

Interesting question.

The important issue is how do you feel about the weapon and its
history.
Twice it has been associated with less than positive events if I understand
its story and your meaning.
Personal weapons and how we feel regarding them is connected to
our confidence and skill with them.Yes they are machines,we are not.

At best,a safe gun with a story,never a carry weapon.

Sell it and buy anything. Vibes that we can feel count.

Or keep it and enjoy it anyway you like.What do I know. ;)
 
These are good guns generally, some of the ones made during the Bangor Punta period were poorly finished, bt still shoot ok. The biggest fault seems to be when you look down on the gun from the top, the barrel and frame don't line up 100%. Not a problem, but once you see it you will not be happ with it. I'd get rid of this one, they aren't exactly collector's items. Mick.
 
You mentioned it's history - it does bother you. Clean it up and sell/trade it. Find a nice 4" 19 or 66... or a new 620 for a great plinker, etc. If all you want is a truck gun, get an older Ruger pre-GP-100.

Stainz
 
It is the anti-gun, anti-freedom crowd who are always trying to ascribe demonic powers to hunks of steel.

It is an inanimate object, just a tool, and has no soul, conciousness, or will.
 
Why not cut two notches in the butt and carry it? Have S and W give it the once over. I'd be scared of the any gun with buggered screws until a pro looked it over. Qualified gunsmiths don't bugger screws.
 
If it bothers you sell it. If it doesn't, keep it. Our opinions on the matter are meaningless when it comes to superstition.

As for problems with that era of S&W, I can't help you there.
 
Sounds like it is broken in to me...

Excellent pistol...Lay it down on the table and ask it how it feels about the deeds it has preformed. If it doesn't have any opinion, :eek: I'd keep it and use it as a conversation piece with your cool friends ;) . It did it's job...Clean it up and make sure it is ready to do so again.
 
It is an inanimate object. No karma, soul, or spirit to rub off on you.

Do with it what you will.
 
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