Bad News for Deer Hunters: CWD in 2 Men

We have it here in Virginia in a few western counties . About 10 years ago the Game Department made it unlawful to use real deer urine because of this . I guess that I am going to start eating my backstraps well done .
 
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The title is inflammatory and reeks of yellow journalism.

The linked article presents no real evidence of CWD crossing species.

There is still no evidence CWD can be transferred to humans.

Don’t take this as me just denying because I am well aware of CWD in the deer herds in MI where I hunt in an active CWD surveillance zone. I get my deer tested before consumption.

Still there is no conclusions here. Only correlation.

Hunters ate meat. Hunters died with signs of “sporadic” CJD. The article does not mention co-morbidity involving CJD. One of them was in their 70s also which is not exactly young.
 
Between CWD and the introduction of wolves in my state, I haven't got one in two-three years...my chances of eating one at the moment are pretty low. I might just concentrate on another cougar, that was the best meat ever.
 
Ugly Sauce said:
Between CWD and the introduction of wolves in my state, I haven't got one in two-three years...my chances of eating one at the moment are pretty low. I might just concentrate on another cougar, that was the best meat ever.
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Shoot, getting one deer every "two-three years" in Idaho (where we live) is doing pretty well. Annually in Idaho, only one in three deer hunters gets a deer (mule deer) during the season. It seems like there's plenty of deer killed on the highways though. :confused:
But speaking of cougars, this is what our oldest daughter (in Pocatello) saw on her way to work this morning:
localnews8.com

Mountain Lion removed from Pocatello neighborhood - Local News 8

A mountain lion was tranquilized Tuesday morning in a Pocatello neighborhood.
localnews8.com localnews8.com
 
Patocazador said:
I just saw this and am passing it on to THR hunters.

www.yahoo.com

Study: Hunters Die After Consuming CWD-Infected Venison

A recent study in the journal Neurology found two hunters may have contracted the human form of Chronic Wasting Disease after eating CWD-infected deer meat
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com

Two men have died after eating CWD infected deer. Results inconclusive at present.
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Ohio opened CWD areas for early bow and rifle hunts to stop the spread. You must turn the head into a special check station for testing. All i will say is there is no way on gods green earth i would eat anything from those areas.
 
Ugly Sauce said:
Living in Washington, I always thought Idaho was the land of plenty, as far as hunting. Perhaps up North?
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I'm only talking about how lousy mule deer hunting in Idaho is. Idaho is pretty good for elk and pronghorns - if you can draw a tag in the right area. It's just been lousy for mule deer since the early '90s, I think. We had a couple of really bad winters back then, and that cost Idaho about 2/3s of its mule deer population. And since then, it seems like every time our mule deer herds start to recover a bit, along comes another nasty winter. Last winter wasn't all that bad though, and we're seeing a lot of mule deer around here this spring, so we're hoping for a good season this year.
I'm 76, and I've lived and hunted in Idaho my whole life - except for 4 years when Uncle Sam made me live somewhere else. And while I like elk, and especially pronghorn meat, my favorite type of big game hunting (and meat) has always been mule deer, and this is the best part of the state to hunt mule deer in. There's getting to be more whitetails "up North," and there's even a few showing up around here. But southern Idaho is "best" for mule deer hunting - always has been.
Oh, and not to go off topic and start a big ol' argument by mentioning "wolves," but I don't think the reintroduction of wolves impacted Idaho's mule deer population all that much. I'm pretty sure the reintroduction of wolves has changed the migration patterns of Idaho's elk though. We hardly ever saw an elk around here 20 years ago, but now there's all kinds of "elk crossing" signs and solar-powered reader-boards on the highways - even on the interstates. And drivers should be paying attention to those signs, because it seems like there's elk everywhere nowadays. And neither Toyota Corollas nor 600lb elk fare very well when they tangle. 😧
 
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red rick said:
We have it here in Virginia in a few western counties . About 10 years ago the Game Department made it unlawful to use real deer urine because of this . I guess that I am going to start eating my backstraps well done .
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Since its a prion desease, even through-cooking isn't garaunteed effective. I think super-strong acids, bases, and UV light are about the only things really effective on them.
Prions are truly terrifying.
 
Cwd ran wild through parts of NC several years back. Up at stone mtn state park it wiped out a ton of deer. When driving through it was possible to see couple hundred deer from one end to the other. After the cwd ran through there you could ride through back and forth and be lucky to see 1 deer. They say a big spreader of the disease is bait piles and feeders where legal. Sick deer stands in bait pile eating while using bathroom next deer comes along eats from same bait pile now its sick. Haven't heard much about it around here over the last few years though
 
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Since its a prion desease, even through-cooking isn't garaunteed effective. I think super-strong acids, bases, and UV light are about the only things really effective on them.
Prions are truly terrifying.
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Maybe the deer need a mask mandate. That'll save 'em.

Heard a few stories in my area of interactions with affected deer. Not sure how they would know the deer was sick unless it was killed and tested.
 
We have it here (Montana). From what I understand is it’s in the spinal fluid and brain. Me and my two sons get deer and antelope every year plus an occasional elk. I don’t test them and we cook the meat thoroughly.
 
Always go the the original source.
The deceaseds did hunt and consume meat from a deer population that has CWD. That is known. Did the specific deer they eat have it? That/those deer is long gone and not available for exam. The article is just reporting the possible link and potential first cases.

People would be upset if the scientists found such possible connections and didn't report them and then all the conspiracy theories would start about how there was a coverup, yaddy yaddy yaddy. The news article was sensationalized and the reporter isn't a medical doctor or biological scientist. However, the meat of the findings are in the news article. The Neurology journal doesn't mention comorbidity, either. It just mentions the possible cross species jump.
 
I see where Florida has extended it's doe season to the entire general period in area "D"..........north Florida. Take is supposed to include the five deer limit on private land only. I'll reserve my normally acid commentary on the agency, but at least they recognize the issue.
 
The thing hunters need to really ponder is if CWD jumps to livestock. Deer will get culled by the millions if it can be proven to infect cattle.

I hunted in CWD containment zones and never killed an infected deer. I have also eaten plenty I haven’t got tested. I still think Lyme is the scariest thing in the woods.

Have since moved from MO to WY. The entire state of MO is essentially good deer habitat. WY is a different ballgame. Whitetails are heavily concentrated on irrigated fields. If/when CWD gets here, those concentrated herds will be wiped out quickly.
 
HB: that very thing happened in Florida with screw worm infestations...........old timers that participated said they were paid a few dollars a deer tail 20's & 30's time period.
 
earlthegoat2 said:
One of them was in their 70s also which is not exactly young.
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What?

.308 Norma said:
We hardly ever saw an elk around here 20 years ago, but now there's all kinds of "elk crossing" signs and solar-powered reader-boards on the highways - even on the interstates. And drivers should be paying attention to those signs, because it seems like there's elk everywhere nowadays.
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Could it be that the elk are out competing the deer? Similar thing here between turkey and grouse and pheasants. Used to be turkey were rare and there were huntable populations of wild pheasants (as opposed to stocked birds) and grouse. Now, there's a turkey beside every tree and no pheasants except where they stock them and grouse seem to be extinct in SW PA. That's my theory and I'm sticking to it!
 
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