Bad range advice from Wisconsin shooter
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Sistema1927
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Personally, I think that blindly accepting advice from strangers at the range is just as likely to cause problems as blindly accepting advice from strangers on the internet.
ArfinGreebly
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Advice?
Yeah, avoid all those amateurs.
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We are, as you have probably gathered, all ekspertz here.
Anything we tell you is the gospel truth, and can be used without anything as crass as a second opinion.
If what we tell you doesn't agree with what your gunsmith of 20 years tells you, he probably is just an amateur who doesn't have a clue what he's doing.
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Yeah, avoid all those amateurs.
Get all your advice HERE!
We are, as you have probably gathered, all ekspertz here.
Anything we tell you is the gospel truth, and can be used without anything as crass as a second opinion.
If what we tell you doesn't agree with what your gunsmith of 20 years tells you, he probably is just an amateur who doesn't have a clue what he's doing.
TRUST US: WE KNOW BEST, BECAUSE WE ARE THE BEST.
erik the bold
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I've used various versions of Loctite anerobics over the years, especially in very high vibration environments (boat racing). To loosen most of the reds, try boiling hot water, right out of the kettle. Keep the item hot for a couple of minutes before trying to unscrew. Usually works if the screw or fastener wasn't completely dripping with the stuff when installed. Additional sources of heat may be required if that was the case.
As far as red v/s blue Loctite, I never use the blue. Just use less of the red...
As far as red v/s blue Loctite, I never use the blue. Just use less of the red...
redneck2
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His advice was sound. Your implementation was not.
Scope makers suggest Lok-Tite. I use blue on all my scope mounts.
Scope makers suggest Lok-Tite. I use blue on all my scope mounts.
gyp_c2
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well...
...boiling water will not harm most blues...don't know about Rugers though...
...boiling water will not harm most blues...don't know about Rugers though...
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BigFatKen
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Say Jim, was there any other than red in 1973? It was the only in the hardware store.
Powderman
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Ken, it seems that the only way it will come out without damaging your gun is to take it to a competent gunsmith. It should be a simple exercise, with a precision drill press, or milling machine to drill the screw out and to re-tap the hole. Of course, you would have to use an oversize screw--but it would do the job.
Another thing to try is to soak the part in Kroil. Clamp the gun with the screw up in a padded vise. Apply Kroil, and tap the sides of the frame with a plastic faced mallet a few times. Then, let it sit. Re-visit the frame every 12 or so hours; apply more Kroil and tap.
After about three or four days of this, get a close fitting screwdriver, seat it and tap the screwdriver a few times--fairly hard--with a ball pein hammer. (Like you're driving a stake). This should hopefully break the bond. Try to unscrew while applying force straight down on the screwdriver.
Good luck, and I hope you can work it out.
Another thing to try is to soak the part in Kroil. Clamp the gun with the screw up in a padded vise. Apply Kroil, and tap the sides of the frame with a plastic faced mallet a few times. Then, let it sit. Re-visit the frame every 12 or so hours; apply more Kroil and tap.
After about three or four days of this, get a close fitting screwdriver, seat it and tap the screwdriver a few times--fairly hard--with a ball pein hammer. (Like you're driving a stake). This should hopefully break the bond. Try to unscrew while applying force straight down on the screwdriver.
Good luck, and I hope you can work it out.
Now I have a quick question about using loctite. The scope mount on my Ruger 10/22 won't stay tight during shooting, so I've decided to use some of the blue loctite. The instructions on the package say to apply it to the opening but the manual with the Ruger warns me not to use any such product on it. So my question is do I apply the loctite to the holes on the mount, the holes on the receiver itself, or both?
The 10-22 reciever is aluminum, that is why they don't want loc-tite on it.
Your best bet will be to tighten the screw, clean the head and mount around it, and use some clear nail polish to lock the head. 2 'dabs' that join the head to the mount should do it. If you ever need to remove it you can pop it loose with a fingernail, but it will keep the screw from backing out.
Your best bet will be to tighten the screw, clean the head and mount around it, and use some clear nail polish to lock the head. 2 'dabs' that join the head to the mount should do it. If you ever need to remove it you can pop it loose with a fingernail, but it will keep the screw from backing out.
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