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Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by Blkhrt13, Apr 14, 2018.

  1. Blkhrt13

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    im ashamed to admit it. I’m not supposed to be buying more right now. But I had to put money down on a single shot 12. They don’t import them anymore. It has a few knicks in the Wood. But functionally and metal wise it’s in perfect shape. $100 was a fair price. In a bit I will have her paid off.
     
  2. Mizar

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    Just watch your fingers when closing the gun to not get traped under the opening lever - it hurts like hell...
     
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  3. Blkhrt13

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    I thought about that. I bet it will give you a rotten bite.
     
  4. darkcloud

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    Sure like my O/U 20 gauge Remmy by Baikal. Has the perfect stock cast for me so I shoot it very well. Pretty well made though nothing fancy. Just functional and fits.
     
  5. DM~

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    Is it cast on or cast off?? I thought they all were neutral cast?

    BTW, what's a "Remmy"?

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  6. Bushpilot

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    The things are built out of steel and are made to last.... at least the ones that I've seen....

    Good luck with your new shotgun....
     
  7. KevininPa

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    Remington Spartan. "Remmy" imported the Baikal for awhile. I have a "Remmy" coachgun made by Baikal.
     
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  8. Mizar

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    Baikal double barrel shotguns have cast off stocks. As far as I know, Baikal (Izh) never made a production run with cast on stocks - according to the Russians, we left-handers do not exist...
     
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  9. DM~

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    The couple I handled were neutral cast... As is my Baikal DR...

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  10. Mizar

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    Well, at least until 2007 when I quit the firearm business every Baikal double barrel I sold was cast off. Maybe it's a recent change, or US market specific? But that's not the subject of this thread...
     
  11. darkcloud

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    Remmy Baikal = Remington Spartan. I find it made to use. I know parts may be hard to come by now and in the future however I don't see major break downs as part of its future. If it is oh well. I paid $199 new. The shop and a massive amount of them. They said they got them from a warehouse That was filled with them when Kmart quit selling guns. Baikal is a very old gun manufacturer and makes things that work. I can't imagine a shotgun much more reliable than a single shot made by them. Of course any gun will malfunction or break if abused.
     
  12. Pete D.

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    The most reported problem with the Baikal SXSs is both barrels firing at the same time. Mine started to do that....it does get your attention. Too bad because it is otherwise a sturdy shooter.
     
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    For what it's worth...

    I have a Baikal O/U in 12 gauge (Izhmash Model 27). It supposedly has cast off but looking at it from above I cannot see any. Furthermore, I am left handed and shoot from the port side, and this gun fits me as well as any shotgun I've ever handled. I can hit with it quite well. <shrug>
     
  14. Blkhrt13

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    I have one of their sxs also and I love it. Truth be told I haven’t shot it much. I got it before I moved to La and haven’t been hunting just working.
     
  15. Skoghund

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    Ah, the Biakal single shot. Nice thick gas pipe barrel and very agricultural. You could club a buffalo to death with one without damaging the gun.
    About 10 years ago my LGS had 2 Biakals best quality side locks on the shelf. I knew that Biakal made top quality guns as well as their run of the mill output, but up to that time had never seen one. Very nice they were too.
     
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  16. Blkhrt13

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    It’s pretty. I just hope I can keep my hack saw away from it. It could become a beast of a truck gun.
     
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  17. Riomouse911

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    I have an OU 20 ga Baikal shotgun. Utilitarian for sure, but it shoots well for me.
     
  18. loose noose

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    I've got a SXS coach gun with exposed hammers, that has seen several thousand shells ran thru it (all low base dove loads) during CAS, and it is still functioning perfectly, and is as tight as when I first purchased it. BTW it is a Baikal.
     
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    Im hunting for one of their coaches to go with the single and my big double. Might as well keep the family a family.
     
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    Been hunting and shooting trap with a Baikal 20 gauge O/U for 6 or 7 years now. I put at least 1000 shells a year through it. Other than the occasional double fire (VERY stimulating), it is a workhorse that goes bang every time. I will probably wear it out eventually, but I think I am a long way from having to worry about it. It ain't pretty, but that just means I can have it out in the snow and drag it through the brush without issues.
     
  21. Mizar

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    This is a well known and widespread problem with single trigger IZh 27/MP 27. Although it uses an old and proven British mechanism, designed for sport rifles (without barrel selector), they still managed to screw it up... For every Baikal shotgun, especially for the single trigger MP 27 it is more than advisable to remove the stock and then to clean the mechanism real well - like flushing it with brake cleaner. You would be amazed at the amount of gunk and metal shavings that is left by the factory in there. Most of the time this is enough for the shotgun to start behaving like it should. If this doesn't help than a trip to a gunsmith is needed to inspect, clean and polish the parts - they are quite rough and this is part of the problem. Other well known problem with IZh 27/MP 27 is stocks cracking at the grip - poor mating surface to the receiver is to blame. It is advisable, especially if shooting heavy loads, to bed the stock to the action with epoxy.

    P.S. Isn't it amazing how, despite the two independent safeties - inertial block and hammer interceptors, the gun still manages to shoot both barrels at once. Makes one feel real confident with his gun's safety...
     
  22. Blkhrt13

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    I hate single trigger doubles anyway. I hunt with it enough and it becomes second nature to pick the one I’m using. I haven’t hunted with a double in a long time. I had an old reminington sxs in 16 gauge. Still miss that gun. I have no idea who my dad gave that one too. Wether it was a cousin or a friend. Still ticked off. But it was his gun and money. I just hunted with it for years.
     
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    Same here. I've got a Remington "Spartan" (Baikal) coach gun. The "hammers" are really cocking levers -- the real hammers are internal. One thing I like about mine is that it takes screw-in choke tubes.

    I would prefer a coach gun with real external hammers, but good ones (Turkish made) are twice the price of a Baikal. (There are also the cheap but substandard Chinese versions.)
     
  24. loose noose

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    I know the older Rossi SXS had the real external hammers, but they stopped importing them quite a few years ago. A good buddy has one that I've had my eye on for quite some time, if he ever decides to sell it.
     
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    Did they make a couple of different models? My SPR220F coach gun has real external hammers.
     
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