Ballistic protection for your home

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  1. Scott Pi

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    I read an old thread here on stopping bullets going thru walls.

    I thought I'd share my approach to ballistic protection, and ask for suggestions on how I can improve on my preps:

    I don’t believe I'll really need ballistic protection generally, but I'd like to be ready if it's needed. (Hopefully, never. But be prepared.)

    If trouble comes, I want to be able to put something in place quickly (a few days) to ride out any trouble.

    First, let me note that I have purchase $16K of Pennies, in rolls/boxes from my bank. 640 boxes.

    Also, $16K of Nickels, also in boxes. 160 boxes.

    The copper in these is already worth more then I paid, but I could always use them for currency, if needed.

    These are stacked in my basement, along the foundation.

    I have also purchase 15 sheets of 12 gauge mild steel, 4’x10’. (a sheet of 12ga is .105 inches thick, fyi.)

    I had them cut into strips 16” x 40”, weighing 20 lbs each. $1700 total investment (found a company that got stuck with some, so it was cheaper.)

    I bought enough 2” memory foam mattresses, twin size, for my plan. $30 each at Walmart.

    I Have a 2nd floor of 4 bedrooms that I want to defend. My plan is as follows:

    I put the 12 ga steel stips along the front and back walls, 70 running feet, 40 inches tall all the way around.

    Then I put my 2” memory foam, 39” tall, all along the walls behind the steel.

    Then I stack my coin boxes like bricks, so that behind the foam I have 4+ inches of copper, nickel and zinc.

    Then another row of the steel plates, then foam, then half inch plywood.
    My front outside is brick, which also helps.

    So what happens is, a round is fired at my siding (almost certainly at an angle – it’s a 2nd floor).

    It hits siding and brick, then wood and plaster, then 12 ga steel, which flexes against the foam, then passes thru into the 4 inches of pennies/nickels, which also give as they are hit. Flex helps slow and deflect a round.

    Nothing will get thru the coins, but the steel and plywood will prevent pennies from flying out of the boxes as a “ricochet”.

    The weight is not insubstantial, but directly above the foundation where all the weight is down on the earth. Should be fine. Until it's needed, it’s all on basement floor.

    I’ll also run a single row of steel along the floor, under the pennies, sticking out 16” into the room, so that low shots will deflect away from the people who may be shooting OUT the windows.

    It took me a few years to pick up all the coins, but I think it’s a great place to stash my money. Try stealing $16K in pennies!

    And since it stays money forever, My ballistic protection is mostly free.
    Thoughts? Improvements?
     
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    You must be new here. :)

    SHTF and TEOTWAWKI involve too much speculation and fantasy and not enough reality-based discussion. Not really welcomed here.

    But you're more than welcome here.

    Matt
     
  3. Fremmer

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    What if they set the roof on fire?
     
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    See #2
     
  5. Scott Pi

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    I bought 4 gallons of this protective gel, that I can spray on the roof with a hose. Or with hand-held 2.5 gallon water fire extinguishers, of which I have 4. Coats the roof, protects for hours, can be "recharged" by getting it wet.
    Not easy if people are shooting at you, I admit.
    The idea would be to have barriers around the location, and people in the protected 2nd floor window to shoot arsons. Brick front helps some.
     
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    Thanks, I'll be more careful.
     
  7. Yo Mama

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    Ok, not adding up, danger Will Robinson
     
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    Spend some time learning to aim better, be nicer to people or move.

    be safe
     
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    I can think of much better ways to invest $32,000 for protection/ defense. Nickels and pennies seems to be a very far fetched way of hardening walls.
     
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    Actual kevlar panels or a bunch of surplus flak jackets would probably be cheaper than all of that...
     
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    While I admire your desire to protect your family/yourself, I think that if you feel you need to spend in excess of $32,000 to fortify your house, that maybe you should move to a safer neighborhood. That way, that $32,000 can be spent on an appropriate firearm(s), PLENTY of ammo, and some training to go with it
     
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    The underside of a bridge has earthen walls on two sides.
     
  13. Scott Pi

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    Actually, I wanted the pennies and nickels anyway. They are worth more than face value already. The pennies have been sorted, and are all pre-1983. In the bank, my money would earn almost no interest, and is easy to be confiscated or attached. In my basement, it's safer.
    So since I want it anyway, I have it to fortify the walls, if needed.
    Buying pennies isn't an expense, any more than stashing $100 bill in the mattress is an expense, and it's likely to be a good investment -- think pre-1965 silver coins.
     
  14. rcmodel

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    If a 30-06 or other high-velocity medium or larger caliber round hits a roll of coins, you will have several dollars worth of coins stuck in your body & face!

    I'd rather take a chance on a clean miss then being sprayed with a high-velocity coin collection!

    Now, this is a SHTF / TEOTWAWKI thread if I ever saw one!

    I'm outta here!

    rc
     
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    pre 63.
     
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    For the win.
     
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    Yeah I am not really seeing this as on topic.
     
  18. 230RN
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    230RN I keep pushing that pendulum back.

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    ^
    Had to look that up....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger,_Will_Robinson

    Isn't our concern about bullets going through walls the safety question from the shooter's perspective... that is, from the inside, in a home defense situation?

    And if you've got that much "coin," both figuratively and literally, lying around, seems to me you could afford to move to a safer area. Fort Scott, KS, seems like a nice little town. :evil::D

    Pardon the snark. Couldn't resist.

    But welcome aboard, Scott Pi !

    Terry, 230RN
     
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    Yeah, I think this silliness has gone on long enough, and I'm improving things by closing this thread.
     
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