Bandoleer Pouch for the Defensive Rifle

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I discovered this bandoleer system at a gun writers gathering I attended a few weeks back. I brought one home with me to check out and it has quickly become my favorite method for carrying spare magazines when I'm out and about with a rifle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs55GeK_Qog

They make them specifically for your type of rifle. They offer pouches for the AR15, AK47 and AK74.

It's so simple and useful it makes me think, "why didn't I think of this?"
 
this is what i use....
mollebandolierpouch.jpg

holds 6 mags and can be had for less than $10 shipping included.

yours looks nice too. i really like the closure tabs. thanks for the vid.
 
Looks nicer than the chest rigs or tactical vests. I favor an East German best system for HVZ and carrying things around.

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That's a really interesting product.. Very interesting concept. Might get one when they come out with other colors

Proven: where did you find that magazine pouch?
 
Wow. Usually I can't stand to watch those kinds of youtube videos from beginning to end, like those by nutnfancy and even Hickok45 (although the latter is more tolerable than the former).
Yours was actually interesting and engaging. Looks like a good products. I would get one for my SKS-M, obviously set up for the AK mags. I don't know that I can justify $65 on it, but when i get some disposable income it might be worth looking into. It would really have to be much better than the soviet surplus ak mag pouches that I bought from Centerfire Systems for something like $3 each a few years back. Those things are pretyt darn rugged. Of course they have both leather and metal on them, so susceptibility to elements is more of an issue for the surplus mag pouches than for the ones you demonstrated. Than again, my SKS-M is blued steel in a wood stock. Not exactly weather proof anyway. I'm kinda low-speed/high-drag.

Thanks so much for demonstrating the product for us.
 
why.kyle, they can be found on ebay all the time, and most army surplus places will have them too.
 
First, you need to ask yourself, how many magazines would you actually ever need, in your situation?

The answer is probably only two, one for your rifle, and one for your pocket.

You can reload the one in your pocket while you are taking cover with the other one in your rifle.

A regular military cloth bandoleer with "clips" of cartridges together with a speedloader would then work well, as any infantry knows, in addition to however many mags they need for the given assault operation.

It all depends if you are training for a military infantry direct assault, or a more practical situation tuned to yourself and your own likely circumstances.

https://www.buymilsurp.com/charger-for-ar15-m16-magazines-p-3182.html

http://s661.photobucket.com/albums/uu335/hangman7/Stripper Clips/?action=view&current=P1020450.jpg
 
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shoobee, are you saying that as "any infantry knows" you only need to carry two mags and then just carry strippers and spoons?
 
The infantry carry cloth bandoleers in addtion to however many loaded mags they need for the assault.

The point of my reply is that OP/Sturmgewehr needs to consider WHAT he is likely to be doing in his own circumstances. Ergo is he really in Afghanistan? So would he ever need infantry equipment??
 
The point of my reply is that OP/Sturmgewehr needs to consider WHAT he is likely to be doing in his own circumstances. Ergo is he really in Afghanistan? So would he ever need infantry equipment??
Perhaps he shoots 3-gun competition. Perhaps he participates in carbine training classes. Gonna need a lot more than two mags to do either of those.

Perhaps he shoots prarie dogs and walks a long way to his shooting point.

Perhaps he just likes them.

What difference does it make? If you're interested in these products, great. If not, why bother to post?

And, having seen a number of Sturmgewehr's posts and videos I'll suggest that he really doesn't need to do a whole bunch more "considering" about whether he needs this or not. It's a flippin' product review! As his purpose here is to, you know, review the product, then I guess he NEEDS one! :rolleyes:

("...would he ever need infantry equipment...?" He's got a bloody semi-automatic version of an infantry carbine!!! Would he ever really need that? :rolleyes:)
 
Hmm, I bought one of these at a yard sale for a $1. Works quite well for my SKS. Holds 200 rounds, 300 of you stuff them in there. ;)

Quite handy for plinking.
 
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What year TJ was that? Sahara...about '98 or so?
It's a 2000. It's been a great Jeep and I'll keep it until it finally dies (which is hopefully many years down the road).
 
I don't know that I can justify $65 on it, but when i get some disposable income it might be worth looking into. It would really have to be much better than the soviet surplus ak mag pouches that I bought from Centerfire Systems for something like $3 each a few years back. Those things are pretyt darn rugged. Of course they have both leather and metal on them, so susceptibility to elements is more of an issue for the surplus mag pouches than for the ones you demonstrated. Than again, my SKS-M is blued steel in a wood stock. Not exactly weather proof anyway. I'm kinda low-speed/high-drag.
Cost is one of those relative things. For me, for something I really like and will use for years $65 doesn't seem overly expensive. But everyone's price pain point is different.

I'm glad you liked the review and could sit through the whole thing. :D I try to keep my videos short, to the point and cover only the info that I believe is relevant without too much added fluff. It's the style I developed after watching lots of YouTube videos myself and thinking I could do things differently.
 
This isn't designed for the Infantry Soldier in mind. It's designed primarily for the prepared citizen. How many mags do I think I need? As many as I can comfortably carry. This pouch is small, unassuming and holds 3 mags. For me, that works perfectly.

Ironically, I've had a number of patrol officers on local departments fall in love with this pouch and they're now using them. It is small, light, can be kept mostly out of the way and when they jump out of their car and grab their carbine, it's easy to toss this on over their gear for 3 extra mags.
 
Ok so what is the prepared civilian preparing for?

Bugging out?

While bugging out, you would want a pistol of some kind with several loaded magazines, sure.

Or a shotgun with a bandoleer, that makes sense.

It just does not seem to serve any civil purpose to have a rifle magazine pouch with 3 pouches on it stuck to your chest. Only an infantry soldier going into combat would ever need something like that, realistically speaking. Although he would want to hold 6 mags in them.

Also think about this. You are wearing 3 loaded mags on your chest. Bullet goes into one of the mags, sets of a primer, discharge starts a cook off in the mag, and now you have a nice hot flare cooking your chest.

You can pickup a lot safer mag pouch at any G/I surplus store, it will hold 3 mags, and it will fit onto a cartridge belt, on your hip, safely.

I believe in shotgun bandoleers and pistol mag pouches though.
 
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A bullet hitting my chest directly or having to go thru 1 or 2 loaded mags on the way to my heart is an easy choice. I actually think that is the most useful feature of wearing lots of mags around your chest. Might really slow down a pistol bullet.
 
Shoobee said:
It just does not seem to serve any civil purpose to have a rifle magazine pouch with 3 pouches on it stuck to your chest. Only an infantry soldier going into combat would ever need something like that, realistically speaking.
What is this "civil purpose" flak? I pointed out several 'valid' uses before, to say nothing of the completely 'invalid' reasons like simply having three mags handy next to the rifle when you grab it to head out the door ... like, oh, to the range maybe, or even if you think you need to go somewhere (or STAY somewhere) where it is important to have a carbine with you.

As magazines are the primary failure point of all auto-loading firearms, having a spare or two with you is just smart. Most of the folks I know carry a couple spare magazines for their carry pistol. Not because they think they'll need 50 or 60 rounds, but because mags fail and a quick reload is much more likely to keep you in the fight. Why would a rifle be ANY different?

And why are you so hung up on what the "civil" purpose of a magazine pouch is? Why are you trying so hard to define away any "need" for this? If you don't want one, don't BUY one. :scrutiny:

Also think about this. You are wearing 3 loaded mags on your chest. Bullet goes into one of the mags, sets of a primer, discharge starts a cook off in the mag, and now you have a nice hot flare cooking your chest.
Oh...kay. So this bullet is going to pass through the cartridge and mag, and you're worried about getting burned? Kind of like being concerned that if you get hit by a dump truck you might break your glasses...;)

If a round does get set off outside a gun chamber, it pops like a firecracker. Bang -- done. The bullet doesn't go anywhere and the cartridge case bursts, but generally doesn't do much harm. It doesn't sit there and burn. And one round that pops doesn't set off the whole mag full of cartridges, either. "Cook off" requires a lot of heat over a fairly lengthy period of time. Like a round left sitting in a VERY hot machine gun barrel, or rounds thrown into a fire. Not at all the same thing as one nearby round popping off -- on the very unlikely event that that even did happen.

I believe in shotgun bandoleers and pistol mag pouches though.
Errrr....because while a rifle cartridge will "cook off" and burn you, pistol and shotgun shells CAN'T? While the premise isn't a good one anyway, this isn't even internally consistent.

No4Mk1* said:
A bullet hitting my chest directly or having to go thru 1 or 2 loaded mags on the way to my heart is an easy choice. I actually think that is the most useful feature of wearing lots of mags around your chest. Might really slow down a pistol bullet.
There have indeed been instances of bullets (probably mostly spent already, and/or ricochets) being deflected or stopped by mags in LBE vests. I doubt I'd plan on that, but lucky is better than good, right? :)
 
I like and like the idea. I don't mind paying Americans more for American made products, so the 10 dollar Chinese copies don't interest me. I would rather wait a couple of weeks and save up to buy American, than buy cheap Chinese. I am glad to see folks trying to improve on existing ideas...

To add to the prepared citizen angle...I can not bug out of my location. I am right on the beach in LA. That means I need to stay and protect my family. During the last riots, we loaded up everything and kept it behind the door to use if needed. It would nice to have some equipment on and concealed rather than laid out behind the door. I would wear this under a sweater, be better prepared, and not draw attention. Seems like a good deal to me.
 
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