I have Been Shooting my whole life. I all ways have had a Ruger and S&W 357 and assorted 1911s. I Shoot in rifle contests. I've won 1st place in my region 4 times. I went to nationals twice. I have and shoot a LOT Of Shotguns too. But My Main question is: I just got a barretta Cougar 8000. Stoager Makes the exact same pistol too, in 9mm and .40 S&W. My Point is. I have put over 500 rounds of 135gr. federal Hygroshock JHPs. And I recently, out of curiosity got a bunck of Magsafe 9mm. they are 64gr(I think) But they go around 2000FPS and frag into 3 chunks and go all over inside the body+have 9 #4 shot in there too that go all around and bounce off things and create a lot of damage. I know of the problem of hitting an arm and having the light round deflect, but thats what having 16 rounds is for. I'm a Paramedic, and If I had a choice I'd rather NOT be shot in the torso with Magesafe because there will be too many wounds in one.the 8 shot will kill arteries and blood vessels and the 3 frags will do the same. But thats just my opinion being a Paramedic and in medicine. I jus mention them because I use them in the appt because they tent to not over penetrate.
I am not extremely familiar with 9mm. I Love the Barretta 8000. But I Love 1911s more. But my CCW is for the Barretta. I want to use Winchester 147gr. SXTs. They are basicly exactly the same as the old balck talons, But importantly they are really heavy, And I like that a lot. So they are basicly heavy Black Talons for a very reasonable price.
But every blog and any info I read about them, it says that they are worthless, and where a "Fad" in the 90s. And being 147gr. they tend to Jam all the time. So everything I read says Do not use them in any 9mm. BUT It seems that the same exact person wrote an article somewhere and it's just re- posted all over the net. The same exact wording is everywhere, from the same person, or re-peters. If 135gr fire flawlessly what's an extra 12gr. going to harm so extremely badly that it makes them completely worthless? Should I just stick to Federal Hydroshock in 135gr?
Anyone ever have Problems with the 147gr, SXTs? I don't want to bet my life on them. but it just seems odd that evey time I read not to use them, that the wording is exactly the same, from the same article.
Do any of you guys use/like this round? Let me now, Any and all help is apprecieated. I'm going to grab some and try them out, but I'm Not going to use them in my CCW until I test them, AND Get some Honest info.
Also. I read a lot of negative things about Magsafe. But I still tried them. I was sceptical Until I saw what they did to a tree stump. they go just about 2000fps and are 64gr+p. I jshot a few federl 135 Hydroshock and they went in a inch or 2 and made a nice hole. The Magsafe had NO recoil and litterally exploded the stump it was about 1-1/2 thick and the whole back was gone and I proke it apart with an ax and there where pellets and a few sharp frags still in there. those things are dangerous. But I'd rather just shoot a Heavey Hallow point the expands properly and has sharp/semi sharp mushroming arms. so Winchester SXT 147gr. Yay or Nay??
I am not extremely familiar with 9mm. I Love the Barretta 8000. But I Love 1911s more. But my CCW is for the Barretta. I want to use Winchester 147gr. SXTs. They are basicly exactly the same as the old balck talons, But importantly they are really heavy, And I like that a lot. So they are basicly heavy Black Talons for a very reasonable price.
But every blog and any info I read about them, it says that they are worthless, and where a "Fad" in the 90s. And being 147gr. they tend to Jam all the time. So everything I read says Do not use them in any 9mm. BUT It seems that the same exact person wrote an article somewhere and it's just re- posted all over the net. The same exact wording is everywhere, from the same person, or re-peters. If 135gr fire flawlessly what's an extra 12gr. going to harm so extremely badly that it makes them completely worthless? Should I just stick to Federal Hydroshock in 135gr?
Anyone ever have Problems with the 147gr, SXTs? I don't want to bet my life on them. but it just seems odd that evey time I read not to use them, that the wording is exactly the same, from the same article.
Do any of you guys use/like this round? Let me now, Any and all help is apprecieated. I'm going to grab some and try them out, but I'm Not going to use them in my CCW until I test them, AND Get some Honest info.
Also. I read a lot of negative things about Magsafe. But I still tried them. I was sceptical Until I saw what they did to a tree stump. they go just about 2000fps and are 64gr+p. I jshot a few federl 135 Hydroshock and they went in a inch or 2 and made a nice hole. The Magsafe had NO recoil and litterally exploded the stump it was about 1-1/2 thick and the whole back was gone and I proke it apart with an ax and there where pellets and a few sharp frags still in there. those things are dangerous. But I'd rather just shoot a Heavey Hallow point the expands properly and has sharp/semi sharp mushroming arms. so Winchester SXT 147gr. Yay or Nay??