batteries for bullets?

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But you still end up with a relatively small quantity of lead, contaminated with Arsenic, Cadmium, and Lead Oxide.
You can't, or shouldn't just dump that dross you skim off down the drain!

And even then, it may still not make good bullets, even if you don't kill yourself & the family dog trying!

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Car battery lead can be used, but the hazards are not worth it for the homeowner. You can easily neutralize all the acid from a battery with sodium bicarbonate,which is baking soda. It doesn't overshoot your pH the other direction if you use too much. It is what we used for acid spills while I was on a factory Emergency Response Team (ERT). For a battery, you'll need quite a bit.

The danger is in draining the battery's fluids to another container and neutralizing the interior to make it safe before you open it up. You would drain the battery and fill it with baking soda solution to neutralize the acid in each cell as well as neutralizing what came out of the battery. You'd have to wash out the interior a couple times, and those other reactant crummies will be washing out with your draining of the fluid.

You'd then need to open up the battery by cutting the plastic around the top and lift the lead cells out. I'd immediately dunk them one more time into a neutralizing bath. Once the fumes clear, I'd figure out how to cut the lead free from it's encasement and make manageable chunks for smelting. And there will be a lot of scale on the lead plates. This buildup is It'd probably need some wire brushing to remove as much of that nasty scale as possible before smelting.

Then smelt it for a good long time outside. Once you avoid all the toxic fumes and skim all the crud, you should have plenty of good bullet material. But for all that work it just doesn't seem worth it for the homeowner. But that's how a homeowner could make it happen. It would not be fun in my book. But it is not out of reach with materials you can buy yourself like acid apron, goggles, gloves, respirator, and a face shield for splash protection. Not too mention a container large enough to contain all the fluid and do the work on the battery. Once the acid is neutralized, you could dump it down the drain since it is a water based solution.

Possible, just not very practical.
 
i heard of a guy hat was talking to a mechanic while getting his tired balanced and the mechanic ended up giving him a 5 gallon bucket full of tired weights whoch were lead

i would try that befor the battery thing
 
Or trade Beer for Bullets!

A lot of station attendants would do it in a heartbeat if the boss wasn't looking!

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About that dross Jeepmor mentioned:

Calcium in battery plates reduces antimony content by forming an intermetallic compound with antimony and arsenic which causes a lot of dross

If combined with water this dross forms stibine -a poisonous, flammable gas
Same thing with arsenic- dross with moisture forms arsine.

The danger does not end with the smelt. If you are putting your dross into a moist environment, like a garbage container may end up, these gasses will hang out there.
 
I'm pretty sure I could do it in an emergency, but it's a lot more complicated than just melting the plates -- you have to neutralize the acid (mason's or builder's lime will do that) and you have the smelt the plates at high temperature with carbon or other reducing agents to convert the sulfate and the oxide paste to metallic lead. Otherwise the yield will be pitiful. Smelting the sulfated plates will stink to high heaven and probably kill all the trees and other vegetation downwind of your smelter.

Here's how I would do it (intellectual exercise, not really practical, and not necessarily safe): Dig a hole and put some lime in the bottom. Add a few car or truck batteries (deep-cycle will work better than low-maintenence because they have less calcium, stronium, and other crap alloyed in) and punch holes in them with a pickaxe and drain out the acid. Add more lime. Chop the batteries into big pieces, and dig the pieces out. Pile them up (plastic and rubber cases and all) add more lime or borax to act as a flux, and build a big wooden bonfire around them. Light the fire and don't get downwind of it once it really gets going. When it's all burned down, the lead should have collected in a puddle at the bottom of the ashes. The yield should actually be pretty high.


I'd rather just pick up bullets from the backstop berm at the shooting range. You can fill up a big coffee can pretty quick.
 
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