battery with a skateboard.

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Desert Eagle. 44 mag. 4 COM, 3 to head, 2 to skateboard itself. Reload as necessary. :banghead: :cuss: :mad: :fire:

I don't mind JackA$$ because that's just a bunch of stupid people that (most of the time... Bam Margera's parents not included) only do the dumb s*** to each other, but this is uncalled for. I've seen too much of this in real life. The fact that someone was videotaping it makes it all the more f***ing stupid. I really and truly apologize for the language, but this... this is just awful.

Realistically? Call the police first, then OC spray the faces of the uber-jerk and the cameraman. Take the tape as evidence. Draw gun just in case. If possible, restrain them. Wait for police.
 
Depends on the area. If it wear me, I feel a warning/flash is appropriate if he advances on you with the skateboard. Once the board is swung, gun is out, safety off, low ready. Continued action would result in magazine being emptied.
 
I can't get the streaming video to work right. It plays part of the way then all I get is sound. Can anyone post it as an MPEG that can be downloaded whole before playing?

From what has been posted so far:

If I was a bystander. I wouldn't draw unless the "older man" was bleeding heavily or I could see bones sticking out. In that case the punk gets 2 shots COM and I take a position over the victim to guard him from further harm and to make sure I have a witness and evidence on my side when the cops get there. If the victim could survive without my use of immediate lethal force I would try to get around behind the punk and blind side him. He looked kind of skinny I could probably just grab him up and toss him in a simple suplex. If I wanted to be fancy I know a lot of jointlocks and Aikido throws. Or a good stiff elbow to the face is always a crowd pleaser.

If I for some reason took on the role of the "older man" and decided to confront the punk I would try to get real close to him, nose to nose almost, to negate the advantage the skate board gave him. Then I would try to put him down and get my knee in his back to pin and my gun hand free if I had to deal with his friends. That would the plan. How well it would work is up to luck and Mr. Murphy. Florida has citizen's arrest, but I wouldn't want to go through the attendant hassle just because some girl’s car has a dent in it. I haven't seen the whole video, did the punk threaten the lady at all?

If I got hit and was down with the punk taking swings at my head. I would try to move on the ground so I was on my back with my legs toward the punk to use as a shield while I drew my pistol.

These are vague plans that come from what little info I have. Remember how long plans last once combat starts.
 
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The original of this clip can be found at IFILM Uncensored - -> Viral videos. It's titled Skateboard Punk
 
What bugs me most is that there was at least ONE witness that saw the whole thing escalate in a predictable fashion from pranks to a major assault and did nothing about it. Isnt there some kind of law about having to at least PRETEND to render assistance in one form or another?
 
In uniform: take the troubled youth into custody. How gently that is accomplished would be directly proportionate to how cooperative he is. Regardless, he would be wearing cuffs and sitting in the back seat.

Out of uniform: (after his assault on the older fellow) beat that fool like a gong. My gf gave me one of those Cold Steel walking sticks for Xmas that would be perfect for the task. I'd have no moral qualms about striking the little cretin from behind as an opener. Pepper spray and/or shoot anybody who wants to rush to his defense. There's right and there's wrong and then there's the folks who just seem to go through life begging for an old fashioned beating. This youngster would seem to be one of them.
 
Balog says....

"I'd say reapeatedly kicking someone in the head and hitting them w/ a deadly weapon after they no longer pose a threat is entirely unjustified."


Ask the guy in Fla that shot at the 3 guys (wounding one) for kicking his old neighbor friend repeatedly in the head.

He might tell you not to do it.
 
Anybody else see the girl who was supposed to be so mad at the sk8boarder give the peace sign as he rode down her hatchback?
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nope it was a different person. I have never seen a chey cavaler (sp??) that cost $40,000.00. that price is what she told him when she was talking to him trying to get his id.

I think that her car was the one pulling into the parking lot after he tosed his board down the road. I actualy think that she ran over it after the last person he pushed off sent it into the road.

Ask the guy in Fla that shot at the 3 guys (wounding one) for kicking his old neighbor friend repeatedly in the head.

He might tell you not to do it.
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sad but true :(

but also a bit different. in that case they were not useing a wood sk8
board

edit: to ad the last line.
 
This is why I carry a keychain that can clear a small restaurant...
(chemically)

Some situations require a response, but do not justify an all-out escalation.

This whole thread is sounding like a mass - "Man with a Hammer" party.

(To a man with only a hammer, all problems look like nails.)
 
Yeah.... but with no other response available, do you have to set back and wait for the other guy to escalate the matter to a level more suiting of the tool at hand? Having the proper tools lets you defuse the situation at whatever level you find it.

(note that the situation did not Start with gratuitous smiting upon the pate)
 
Not an old guy, not even an "older" guy. Two youngish guys getting in a pi$$ing contest. Skateboarder deserved an asskicking. Other guy wasn't up to the task. While a skateboard could be a deadly weapon, if you shot him, I'm sure you'd be arrested and have to go to trial.

If I was there, I'd use my pepperspray, this is just why I carry it. Except I wouldn't be there. Bunch of young drunk guys trying to get in trouble, and I wouldn't be there to oblige them. Call the cops and leave the area.
 
i guarantee you that if the skateboarder had even attemped to hit a LEO with the board so unexpectedly, the boarder would have a couple extra breathing holes, and it would be called a 'good shoot'.


thats no slam on LEO's, but rather upon the system that says their actions are more righteous than that of a lowly civilian.
 
A skateboard is a deadly weapon.

The skateboarders even have their very own lingo for beating someone with a board.

"So while Andrews tried to steady himself, Strano came from behind and trucked him with "all his might" in the back of the head. (To "truck" someone is to strike the person with one of the metal trucks on the underside of a skateboard.) "

http://www.thestranger.com/2003-01-09/feature.html
 
It seems that, other than the idiots agreeing to ride his board, noone was physically getting hurt until the second guy came in. It also seems the second guy initiated the physical contact. This is where the problem is. Had he been acting in defence of a third party using only force and the situation escalated as it did you could very well shoot the boarder and claim self defense. But since he is not acting in the defense of a thrid party the man getting hit has no claims to self defense until he "abandons the situation". After his failed headlock attempt he did start to walk away, but convincing a DA and a Jury that that is an abandonment may be difficult. Anyways, the man getting hit not having the claim of self defense means you probably don't have the ability to defend him using deadly force. I'd like to think that had any of us been there the cops would have been called long before the beating started and the situation would have quickly been defused.

**Note, this abandonment stuff is what is taught in the Texas CHL class and will vary from state to state
 
SO most of us would draw down and rush in and save the day??
What about the skateboarders other friends that are with him??
How are you going to handle 2 or 3 or 4 maybe 10 guys??
 
qouteing the gambler from magifcent 7:


" i only have 2 bullets i'll let ya'll discuss it amoungst yourselfs which one of you dies"

i don't need 10 bullets to control a crowd all i need is each individual wanting to live.
 
How are you going to handle 2 or 3 or 4 maybe 10 guys??
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The usual gang mentaility prevails. When one gets in deep, the others bail.


You don't really think someone ELSE would grab their skateboard and chase an armed man?
 
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