Be careful of CCW class prices

[Ash_J_Williams]

i also live in kansas and paid the same thing to sheriff and state but i sure didn't pay 150 for ccw class. check around on a differnt class. if i remember right i payed 65.

That's what I paid, as well. I don't need a 2-day course, in my opinion, as I have a bit more experience than a beginner, and I definitely don't need to impress some entitled egotist who I'm paying by the hour at their discretion. And I really don't need to patronize a place who'll tell you $150 at one point and upwards of $400 at another.

 

[timhernandez]

Paid $75.00 for my renewal class in July. My son and a friend went also, $75.00 each.

We see classes from $75 to $150 around here all the time but, I went with someone I knew, trusted, and was confident would give my son and pal a good experience.

FYI, it took less than a month from application to reciept of my renewal. My friend saw the same result on his first application also.

Costs...
$110.00 to the State/County
$75.00 for the class.
$185.00 total.

Then add in the new carry pistol I 'needed' to get......

 

[KZinOKC]

Oklahoma set the course fee at $60 in the Oklahoma Self Defense Act. Then add in the fee's for fingerprints, $25, the Sheriff's fee, $100, and Passport photo, (if you don't supply your own the Sheriff will do them for $10). So you can get the permit for $195 plus the ammo cost used in the course. The class is 8 hours long.

 

[Neverwinter]

Sorry, but when other places are handing out certificates without a test for attending the class and paying attention, and other states don't even require ANY such certification or training, then that isn't their place. The point is, they're tacking on time at their discretion, which conveniently brings them more and more money, all the while they told one price at the first. It's pretty simple stuff to grasp, man, these guys are scumbags.

The presence of other instructors who are willing to give out certifications without performing any evaluation of the students as to their competency doesn't absolve one's personal responsibility.

It sounds like they didn't include the cost of the mandatory evaluation with the course fee, which is deceptive.

 

[jmstevens2]

Cant drink alcohol till your 21 either or become a commisioned police officer police officer.

Just not fair darn it.

I was commissioned at 18. There are few departments that will hire you, but in Ohio you can still be commissioned. It's more an insurance thing.

 

[Ash_J_Williams]

The presence of other instructors who are willing to give out certifications without performing any evaluation of the students as to their competency doesn't absolve one's personal responsibility.

It sounds like they didn't include the cost of the mandatory evaluation with the course fee, which is deceptive.

Well, as that evaluation isn't required by law OR the NRA, but something they CHOOSE to do, then why would you want to pay to try to impress someone who you don't, by definition of the requirements, NEED to impress?

That sounds a lot like extortion, coupled with a god complex of some guy who gets off on the power trip of being an instructor and deciding whether or not someone gets their certificate. It should be an in-and-out process, considering that other states have even lesser requirements, and nothing mandates that they HAVE to have such procedures.

 

[fpdsniper]

I charge $80 for my NRA Basic Pistol Class. I live in Illinois, but right at the Iowa border, so I get students from the Iowa side too. Hopefully, so day Illinois politicians will pull their heads out of their butts and pass a CCW permit law. I'm LEO, so I can carry anyway, but I don't think it's fair that law abiding citizens are not allowed to carry in this fascists state. Anyhow, I do believe that anyone that wants to carry a firearm should be required to have a background investigation done, and take an NRA approved class. There are just some people that lack the common sense needed to be carrying a firearm. You may disagree, but that's what I think about it.

 

[carbonyl]

Paid $75 for a 10 hr class on a Saturday, put in 2hrs range time on a Sunday, applied at the county sheriffs office Monday and got my permit in the mail Wednesday. Now thats efficient.

 

[Neverwinter]

Well, as that evaluation isn't required by law OR the NRA, but something they CHOOSE to do, then why would you want to pay to try to impress someone who you don't, by definition of the requirements, NEED to impress?

The objective is to learn the skills which prepare you for carrying. If you're not going to evaluate them on their learning, then you don't know if they obtained those skills. Maybe people want to prepare themselves for carrying and self-defense, rather than just go through a d̶i̶p̶l̶o̶m̶a̶ certificate mill.

 

[Fred_G]

Paid $75 for a 10 hr class on a Saturday, put in 2hrs range time on a Sunday, applied at the county sheriffs office Monday and got my permit in the mail Wednesday. Now thats efficient.

That is nice! Been 3 weeks since my application arrived at the state police office... Still waiting.

 

[Ash_J_Williams]

The objective is to learn the skills which prepare you for carrying. If you're not going to evaluate them on their learning, then you don't know if they obtained those skills. Maybe people want to prepare themselves for carrying and self-defense, rather than just go through a d̶i̶p̶l̶o̶m̶a̶ certificate mill.

When you're being charged by the hour at someone else's discretion, no, I doubt anyone is going to want that. If you want a PISTOL COURSE, you'd take a pistol course. If you want a certificate so you can carry, you WANT a certificate mill.

 

[ErikO]

I guess I'm fortunate. The course I plan on taking is a bit spendy ($125) and MO CCW isn't cheap, either ($111 including the non-driver ID cost) but at least I feel that I can trust the instructors. These guys have had enough repeat business that they were able to build their own indoor range/training facility. If I were to order a gun online I'd gladly have it sent to them for the FFL transfer, even though it's $5-10 more than some other places.

I really can't say enough good things about these guys. PM me if you want to know who they are, I don't work for them.

 

[orionengnr]

I hate that I am now legally an adult but I can't do CC or get a handgun for another 3 years! Exactly whose crime is that stopping?

Ummm...maybe. You can enter into a legal contract, you may vote and you can die for your Country.

Certain other rights are deferred until a later date.

When I joined the military, the drinking age was 18. It was said, "If you're old enough to serve, you're old enough to be served". That worked for a long time...but some do-gooders found a reason to change it.

Don't like it? Exercise your right to vote. Do so regularly. And convince others to do likewise as well.

 

[Sam1911]

[Guys, let's keep this on-topic. Don't drag this off into the politics weeds...]

 

[thebaldguy]

My wife and I paid under $70 each for our CCW class. Some of her family members had the class and they had recommended the instructor who was a former LEO and a current NRA instructor. It covered a lot of info including videos with shoot/no shoot senarios. A friend of mine took his CCW class for $125 at a different place. He said it was a good class, but they didn't cover nearly as much as we did.

 

[jmstevens2]

I charge $80 for my NRA Basic Pistol Class. I live in Illinois, but right at the Iowa border, so I get students from the Iowa side too. Hopefully, so day Illinois politicians will pull their heads out of their butts and pass a CCW permit law. I'm LEO, so I can carry anyway, but I don't think it's fair that law abiding citizens are not allowed to carry in this fascists state. Anyhow, I do believe that anyone that wants to carry a firearm should be required to have a background investigation done, and take an NRA approved class. There are just some people that lack the common sense needed to be carrying a firearm. You may disagree, but that's what I think about it.

Do you really think that most of those people will not carry anyway?

 

[Cluster Bomb]

there are simular scam classes like this in Maine. there are many that dont qualify as proof as certificate to acknowledge your qualified to get a ccw and still charge $150+.

 

[orionengnr]

Cant drink alcohol till your 21 either or become a commisioned police officer police officer.

Hmmm...are you sure you haven't been drinking alcohol?

 

[gym]

Ok so in NYC you spend a fortune getting letters from lawyers accountants, bank managers, go through 3 interviews, bla bla, 6 months to a year later you get a purchase order, you then go out and buy the gun and have 24-72 hours "i don't remember" pay your 5 hundred or more for your license fee, and may never have touched a handgun till you get the purchase order. Talk about not making sense. I had a nra hunting approved safety course that the instructor came "because there were 5 or 6 of us , "in like 1971", It was the same safety course needed to get a hunting license. Now Maybe it changed "I hope" since then. But you were put through hell for almost a year and then just given a 2 or 3 day window, to decide what you were going to carry forever."Gun goes on license" we have been over that part. but after all the time money and aggravation, the novice, then is given a very limited window to make the selection, that seems just bizarre.At that time and possiblly till now, they never shot anything, I should say didn't have to. It seems that some sort of standard is needed.Theoretically you just gave someone a pistol who may have never even held one before. Now that may have changed since the old days but it wouldn't suprise me if it didn't. Mainlly because of the lack of places to shoot in NYC. Assuming the old range is still open downtown, I am sure that there aren't enough folks with licenses to keep a range in business in NYC. The overhead on a place that size would be prohibited when a studio apt can run $500,000 in midtown.
I don't see how that person is qualified to carry, having never "had " any range time. It was all theory. Granted most who want to carry have fired a gun "hopefully" but they don't know ballistics or penetration, is it safe just because it's legal. I don't mean this as a 2nd amenmant argument, I agree everone should have the right, but most here have had an interest in guns and ample knowledge. It's more like giving someone who saw a jet plane , a real jet plane and saying well you got all the paperwork and paid the fee, we told you how everything works, Go out now and good luck. I'm sure if NY and others like CA. eventually get pushed enough where they have to let people carry, they will make it nearlly impossible for them to get their guns, just like NYC does now and charge exhorbitent prices for ongoing training and whatever they can come up with to make it harder than it was.