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Bears and the .454 Casull

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by TNBulldog, May 15, 2007.

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  1. TNBulldog

    TNBulldog Member

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    How comfortable/confident would you all be with a heavy grain hard cast bullet in .454 for bear hunting or bear defense?
     
  2. Chief 101

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    So, what sort of bear are you planning on tangling with? A 150# black bear taking a nap or maybe a 1ton+ Kodiak hungry for your salmon? Makes a dif. Chief aka Maxx Load
     
  3. Sundles

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    +1 Chief 101

    Also, hunting bear and bear defense are two very different matters that may or may not require different loads/guns. Hunting allows you to pick your shot at a distance, defense gives you no such luxuries.
     
  4. Fumbler

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    I have no experience, but perhaps a bullet that is fatter than a 45 would be a better choice for the big bears...
    ohh, maybe something like a 480 ;)
    Just as good penetration (or maybe better) with a fatter bullet and less recoil.
    Sounds like a better big bear gun to me.
     
  5. trueblue1776

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    Shorten a .45/70 BFR, buy some Buffalo Bore loads and a high carbon steel wrist bone. All jackassery aside I'd rather have a nice levergun.
     
  6. Gator

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    What Trueublue1776 said :D

    I wouldn't feel "comfortable" at all with any handgun against a big brown or grizzly. I know people hunt and kill bears with handguns, but most of them have someone standing behind them with a rifle when they do it.
     
  7. Shawn Michael

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    True but

    True but .500mag ballistics are not that far off. Winchester Platinum tips 440 grain are 2900ish ft/lbs with a .50 cal hole. A lot of the popular hunting rounds and corbon 45/70s are about the same energy wise so these pistols are no joke.
     
  8. oscarswanson

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    I have not shot a bear with it but I feel the power when I pull the trigger.
    It's going to destroy what it hits.
    [​IMG]
     
  9. RancidSumo

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    I would bet that a .454 Cassul would make even a bear think twice about having you for a snack. But if that doesn't work, why not try the S&W .500?
     
  10. Geister

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    The S&W .500 has to be the stupidest gun concept ever. Personally, if you need something more powerful than a .454 Casull revolver, it's best to go to a rifle.
     
  11. telomerase

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    Now, now, deaf weightlifters need guns too... and if you're a deaf weightlifter, why not use a S&W .500 for bears or velociraptors?
     
  12. obxned

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    Yeah, the .500 is a really stupid gun - unless a really big bear wants to stomp you and the wind blew your pepper spray all the way to Kansas.
     
  13. Sundles

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    The S&W X frame is too big/heavy to do what handguns are supposed to do, which is to be packable in a holster all day long. The X frame will pull your pants down or your back out.

    If I'm going to carry something that heavy, it'll be a Marlin 45-70 with some real power.
     
  14. Geister

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    I don't know of anyone would would carry a .500 S&W into bear country; it's too big.
     
  15. PrimaryB

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    I don't think there is a "comfortable" handgun to hunt/defend yourself against bear. Ouch! Most important thing is you hit the target. Never hunted nor defended myself against bear. Never even shot at a bear silhouette. Get the biggest caliber handgun you can shoot and practice, practice, practice.

    You are defending yourself because you didn't see the bear at a distance. He's in your face. Lord help you if he is a she w/cubs.

    PB
     
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