beginner and need help please 9mm/223/3006

[ranger335v]

"Just make sure there carbide that way you will not need to lube them in order to resize them. "

Josh45, can you tell us who makes straight wall handgun sizers today that aren't carbide?

 

[kingmt]

Leagon
Much better post but the Lee presses are not pot metal & I think they make good presses.

If yor loading for a bolt I suggest the delux set.

 

[wolverine_173]

im looking at powder valley for 223 bullets for reloading in 55 grain, i only see .224 for 55 grain. Do they sell 223?

and they dont tell you how much shipping is until after you order, anybody know how much they charge?

 

[jcwit]

Wolverine 173

You either need to get some reloading manuals or read and reread them. The dia. for the .223 is .224.

 

[RustyFN]

For what it's worth, I'd skip the 9mm. Around here anyway, you can get WWB (Winchester White Box) for $10 /50. At that price, it's hard to justify screwing with reloading.

True unless you like to hit what you are aiming at. A friend of mine shot two 8.5" by 11" targets with a Glock and his reloads with 12 rounds per group. They were shot from a Ransom rest and both groups were 2 inches. He did the same test with WWB ammo and on the first one only got 9 out of the 12 on the paper. The second group he had 8 of 12 on the paper.

For me it's worth reloading 9mm because I can get more accurate ammo than I would buy. I can make it with less recoil. If I want to load it with my own cast bullets then all it cost me is powder and primer.

I could be wrong because I don't load 30-06 but I remember hearing that the double disk kit won't go big enough to load 30-06.

 

[Legion489]

RCBS, Lyman and others make regular steel dies for straight cased cartridges. I generally buy RCBS regular steel dies when I want them, but have others too. These are useful for case forming and other uses, but for everyday reloading, carbide (or whatever else the company calls their non-steel dies) is the way to go. Lee carbide dies are the cheapest, RCBS and Lyman can vary in price depending, Dillon, Redding and Forster are the best, and cost it!

"Ain't we got the idiots on our side? And ain't that a majority anywhere?" Mark Twain

"Say you are an idiot, and say you oppose Legion, but I repeat myself." Mark Twain (paraphrased)

 

[premier1]

All the advice given here by these fine people is very valuable. It seems like they hace covered the equipment side of things quite fully so I'll address the components. For 9mm primers I would use CCI or Remington they are said to be a little bit harder not as sensitive for your bullets I would recommend the Berrys 115 gr. Fmj for ease in feeding they are also very inexpensive. Many different powders are available I use Bullseye. Also even at $10.50 a box for 9mm if you reload you'll probably safe half that much.

 

[wolverine_173]

So any that say 224 and 55 grain will work for 223?

 

[Jim Watson]

I say it, everybody says it, including the rifle and ammunition makers.
.223 Remington is just a trademark.
The standard bullet diameter for ALL modern .22 centerfires is .224".

So it doesn't matter whether you have a .218 Bee, a .219 Zipper, a .220 Swift, a .221 Fireball, a .222 Remington, a .223 Remington, a .224 Weatherby, or a .225 Winchester; they ALL shoot .224" diameter bullets.
(Unfortunately a .22 Jet is .222", an older .22 Hornet is .223", and a .22 Savage is .227", but these are obsolete oddballs, stick to the standard stuff.)

Bullet weights differ for different case sizes, rifling twists, and intended targets, but the diameter is standard.

A 55 grain .224" bullet is fine for cheap .223 ammunition.


But you will not learn how to handload one question at a time on the internet.
Get some books.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

I'm not a fan of the Challenger press at all. If you want to buy a Lee single stage press buy the Classic SS press which is Cast Iron. BUT... Since you are going to load 9mm ammo I also recommend buying the Lee Classic Turret Press.
https://kempfgunshop.com//index.php...facturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=41
I also highly recommend buying the Pro Auto-Disk over the standard Auto-Disk. For a few dollars more you get a much better tool! (upgrade at the bottom of the page)

I load a bunch of handgun calibers along with the .223, 30-30, 30-06, 45-70 and a few more on the classic turret press. All you need to do is remove the auto-index rod and treat it as a single stage press and you are good-to-go... I also have a single stage press but mostly use the turret press now because the dies are all set up on their own turrets.