Benelli shotguns kick too hard?

[jmr40]

The Benelli is going to kick somewhat more than a gas gun, but certainly no worse than a pump or double. I have no trouble with the Benelli, it is softer shooting than my 870's. Folks shoot pumps all the time and don't complain. Most of your serious competition shooters are using doubles and they shoot more shells in a month than most hunters will shoot in a lifetime.

If recoil is an issue there are several very good gas guns. I prefer the lighter weight and simplicity of the Benelli and can live with the slight increase in recoil.

 

[RUT]

>>Folks shoot pumps all the time and don't complain<<

Or over & unders for that matter.

 

[oneounceload]

Does the gas operated system of the Beretta result in less recoil from the inertia driven Benelli? Does the comforTech stock on the Benelli result in overall less recoil than the Beretta? Questions questions.

And easily answered..recoil is a two-fold subject comprising ACTUAL and PERCEIVED. Actual is a mathematical calculation based on weight of the gun, velocity of the ejecta and mass of the ejecta. Perceived recoil, a.k.a. "KICK", is the way you perceive it - the bruised cheek, jolt to the shoulder, etc.....this is a direct result of gun FIT (MOST important), followed by gun action, recoil pad, etc.

Reality - take any gun of equal weight, no matter the action, and shoot the same exact load, no matter the gauge, and the actual recoil will be exactly the same.........change things to a gun that fits, add a gas action, (NOT inertia), and a nice recoil pad, then the perceived recoil will be much less

 

[ATAShooter]

Blacops... are you near Chesterfield, Va at all? If you are, come by my house, take the M-2 for a spin, and you can experience it in person....

 

[dogsoldier0513]

I have both a Benelli M1 Super90 and a Beretta 1201FP. I love them both!

 

[FAS1]

I have both a Benelli M1 Super90 and a Beretta 1201FP. I love them both!

Same here. The Benelli kicks hard, but another benefit of their action vs. gas assist is how clean the chamber stays. I was told that when I purchased it but didn't realize how clean!

 

[CaveLake08]

I've had a SBEII for 5 years and love it! I use it exclusively for my waterfowl and upland hunting, as well as trap and skeet. Probably at least 5000 rounds through it and it works like new. It's recoil has never been an issue for me, and is much less than the Moss. 500 I had previous to it, and is less or at least not noticeably more than any of the other auto shotguns I've used at the skeet range. I think the comfort tech stock is definitely worth the extra money though. I don't know if the little rubber arrows actually do anything, but the butt pad is great and the cheeck pad really does make a difference. For a while I used one of those elastic shell holders on my butt stock and the perceived recoil went up big time just due to that covering the cheek pad. They are expensive but I view it as a one time shotgun investment that will do everything I need for hopefully the rest of my life. Durable, reliable, easy to clean and great for quick follow up shots. Don't wanna sound like a commercial here but I wouldn't consider any other auto shotgun even if it meant saving up for it for another couple years.

 

[Oldfalguy]

Bought a SBE for son in law and a Winchester SX3 2 years ago-
Both have their respective recoil absorbing stocks- the SX3 is more like an
FN FAL recoil spring setup the tail of the bolt slips into- Gun runs great.
He loves his SBE and it doesn't kick him at all till you go to the long shells-
I only use mine with 2 3/4 shells and my 5' 4" daughter shoots skeet with it-Very light weight, great field gun-

 

[vaherder]

Inertia vs gas

We are all different. My suggestion is try to shoot a the current top semi autos from Benelli, Beretta, and Browning. Try a Vinci, Maxus and A400
in 3in. There really isn't any need for 3.5". See which gun fits you best
and works best for you. Fit has has lot to do with perceived recoil. All of the above have shims to adjust the gun to fit you.

I specifically left out Remington since the Versamess isn't currently on sale
and chances Remington will be in Chap 11 or worse are good.

I have a Maxus in Black 28". Over the winter I plan on acquiring a Winchester Super X-1 and rebuilding it and maybe a 686 WOS or current model Winchester 101. One of the most overbuilt firearms ever made. A buddy of mine who hunts ducks and other birds regularly loves his Vinci. I have shot his and he has shot mine. Neither of us would switch. I don't hunt that often. Prefer sporting clays.

One last thing manufactures claims about recoil reduction are all just marketing. Basis is fact is dubious. Strippers and teenagers tell the truth more.

Va herder

 

[45crittergitter]

I'm a little guy, maybe 140#, and I shoot a first generation (non-comfortech) SBE with a 24" barrel that weighs about 7#. 3-1/2" steel loads are no problem at all, except that they're very loud. 3-1/2", 2-1/4 oz lead loads aren't very bad, assuming you don't shoot a lot of them. Either load gets your attention if you're off balance, shooting straight up, or are backed against a tree. However, I've not had any recoil complaints.

 

[DriderX]

It's the gas operation, y'all

I have a Benelli M2 12-ga tactical. It's very well made, very reliable, and it kicks mercilessly with any serious tac loads. I get headaches after firing serious buck and slug loads in it. In that regard it's not much different from the 12-ga M870 I also have, except the Benelli is heavier. Both are unpleasant to shoot with all but the lightest loads.

BY comparison until recently I owned a Benelli R1 rifle with the Benelli "Argo" gas-operated system, not the inertial/recoil system of the M2. The R1 is* sweet and relatively soft to shoot, which is saying something on an 8-lb .300 Win Mag.

The difference is gas operation. Gas-operated autoloaders can indeed be much softer to shoot than fixed-breech actions; it's the nature of the beast. Recoil-operated autoloaders, not so much. That's presuming all else being equal (stock fit, pads, etc.).

I have a Weatherby SA-08 20-ga autoloader that is gas-operated. Because it's one of the lightest 20-ga guns made (5 lbs, 12 oz on the digital scales), with stout 20-ga ammo it should be a real kicker, but it's not; it's a sweetie. It's substantially softer to shoot than a venerable Remington 870 Lightweight I also have which weights a full pound more than the Weatherby. I loooove that little Weatherby .

N.B.: I have a degenerative joint condition that over the years has made me continually more sensitive to recoil thump. But that also makes me very finely sensitive to differences in recoil effects of various weapons. When it comes to recoil, particularly on long guns, I'm sort of a canary in the coal mine.

 

[gshipps]

Just bought super sport. Shot 100 first time out. I was ready to quit for sure but the next day i was not sore at all. Hadn't shot a shot gun in years. Using light target loads some said a benelli would have trouble cycling but it worked fine with them. Even brand new.