I got a Beretta 9000s 9mm for the wife several months back but it has not gotten used until recently, as my wife practiced for her CHL and now has been shooting once a week after.
The first ammo we used as she practiced for her CHL was WWB 147 grain JHP, and 147 grain Blazer aluminum jacketed flat point. No jams or problems. On one session we tried Blazer 115 grain aluminum, and it caused problems. Since I knew it to be weak, I thought it was just related to weak ammo and a new, stiff spring. Turns out the same jam signature would show up again . . .
Her first few practice sessions after the CHL were again with the same ammo, but last week I had her try WWB 115’s, and some Chinese ammo, either 115 or 124 grain (not sure which). She reported problems last week and then again today, so today I went back with her to the range.
Using the cheap ammo, she fired about 40 shots and got about 4 fails. I shot about 25 rounds and got one fail. Part of my concern is the nature of the fails. Almost each time, the round is being pulled about half way out of the chamber, and then apparently the extractor is letting it go. Then the slide is getting hung up further back and then getting hung up on the round pushed up from the mag.
So after this, I opened a box of Fiocchi 147 grain FMJ, and between us had no fails out of the box of 50. Overall, out of about 200 147 grain shots, not a single fail from three brands of ammo. But consistent fails from three brands of 115 grain ammo.
I am failure with stove pipes, but not with the extractor letting go of the round. If you pop the clip after a fail, the slide slams shut, pushing the empty round back into the chamber.
Is this fail signature just from weak rounds compared to the slide spring? I have seen stove piping out of an uzi + weak rounds, but the extractor letting go of the round when the casing is half in the chamber seems very odd to me.
The first ammo we used as she practiced for her CHL was WWB 147 grain JHP, and 147 grain Blazer aluminum jacketed flat point. No jams or problems. On one session we tried Blazer 115 grain aluminum, and it caused problems. Since I knew it to be weak, I thought it was just related to weak ammo and a new, stiff spring. Turns out the same jam signature would show up again . . .
Her first few practice sessions after the CHL were again with the same ammo, but last week I had her try WWB 115’s, and some Chinese ammo, either 115 or 124 grain (not sure which). She reported problems last week and then again today, so today I went back with her to the range.
Using the cheap ammo, she fired about 40 shots and got about 4 fails. I shot about 25 rounds and got one fail. Part of my concern is the nature of the fails. Almost each time, the round is being pulled about half way out of the chamber, and then apparently the extractor is letting it go. Then the slide is getting hung up further back and then getting hung up on the round pushed up from the mag.
So after this, I opened a box of Fiocchi 147 grain FMJ, and between us had no fails out of the box of 50. Overall, out of about 200 147 grain shots, not a single fail from three brands of ammo. But consistent fails from three brands of 115 grain ammo.
I am failure with stove pipes, but not with the extractor letting go of the round. If you pop the clip after a fail, the slide slams shut, pushing the empty round back into the chamber.
Is this fail signature just from weak rounds compared to the slide spring? I have seen stove piping out of an uzi + weak rounds, but the extractor letting go of the round when the casing is half in the chamber seems very odd to me.
