Beretta Neos DLX Issues

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Somewhat minor issues so far.

1) After 40-60 rounds the screw that keeps the rear sight in the right place slowly unwinds moving the sight to the right making it impossible to keep it perfectly sighted in

2) About once every 10-30 rounds it won't fire... the firing pin is back and ready to fire, but it doesnt fire, if I rack the round out, then it works, and there are no pin strikes on that round, and it will fire if i put it again in later.

That's about it, otherwise the gun shoots great :)

Any ideas what #2 could be, and how to fix #1 (obvious way would be to get a red dot heh)
 
Get some BLUE Loctite from your local hardware store (a bolts-only store would certainly have it) and use a TINY bit on your rear sight. I've not had that problem, but removable Loctite is pretty much always the solution to loose screws. Take the sight screw out, put a tiny dab on the last bit of threads, screw it in, and sight in the gun before it dries (~5 mins).

As for the firing pin, have you ever fully disassembled and cleaned your NEOS? I suggest you do, take it apart and clean each piece. Clean the firing pin spring, firing pin and the tube in the reciever that they both fit in to. It's not difficult, the NEOS has few pieces.
 
UberPhLuBB said:
Get some BLUE Loctite from your local hardware store (a bolts-only store would certainly have it) and use a TINY bit on your rear sight. I've not had that problem, but removable Loctite is pretty much always the solution to loose screws. Take the sight screw out, put a tiny dab on the last bit of threads, screw it in, and sight in the gun before it dries (~5 mins).

As for the firing pin, have you ever fully disassembled and cleaned your NEOS? I suggest you do, take it apart and clean each piece. Clean the firing pin spring, firing pin and the tube in the reciever that they both fit in to. It's not difficult, the NEOS has few pieces.
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About 650 rounds through it and Ive done it 3 times now (after each firing session) and It did it every since the first 100 rounds.

I "think" today, I put it on safety, an then took it off, and then it let me fire successfully without me racking the slide, but we will see again in the future


/nod about the loctite, I should just do that until I get me a red dot :)
 
Jeez, it fired without you touching the trigger? Are you sure you have it assembled correctly? That definately shouldn't happen.

Maybe you should send it back to Beretta.
 
No no :)

I mean I pulled the trigger, nothing, firing pin did not deploy

I put it on safety, looked at it, kept it pointing in a safe direction

Then I took safety off, aimed, and then pulled the trigger and it did fire...

so it didnt fire on its own, but the safey on and off then allowed it to fire without re-racking, no clue why
 
Oh ok, maybe the firing pin was bound on something and jiggling the safety dislodged it so the trigger could release it.

Maybe there's a burr or something in the mechanics. Take a look and see what you can find. The worst that could happen is you send it to Beretta for repairs.
 
Mine had a couple of small burrs on the slide assembly that occasionally (one time in 10) kept the slide from going fully into battery, and it wouldn't fire. Ground 'em off, and it worked better. I've found it does like to be clean and well-lubricated, so if you're spoiled by Glocks or something clean it and lube it every 50 rounds or so.
 
i clean and lube after the range each time, but thats 100-250 rounds at the range


as far as lubing it what should i use? im just using remoil at the moment to clean and lube as nothing too bad is getting built up.
 
Sounds like your hand is accidently partially engaging the safety or some crud is blocking the plunger acting like the safety is on.

http://pho3nixserver.no-ip.org/u22/u22main.html has nice instructions with lots of photos about doing a trigger job on your Neos, even if you don't do it, it'll show you where the crud may be that is making it act like the safety is on. The failure to go into battery issue is another thing to look into.

Add a Red Dot sight and do the trigger job and you will really love your Neos. I find the cheap "Target Sports" red dots from www.cdnnsports.com work well, although sometimes I have had to remove the battery and locktight the screws that hold the battery compartment to the sight body.

They look pretty much the same, but I've had poor results with BEC and NcStar brands (CDNN sometimes sells these as well).

I'd rate my Neos as my most reliabe .22 autoloader and I don't clean my guns until they start acting up. So far I've never had a misfire with it that went off on a second try (get one or two of these every brick of cheap bulk pak with any of my Rugers.

I just wish the safety rotated the "right" way -- ruger got it correct.

--wally.
 
This is why I suggest starting cheap so you can try a few different models. I find I prefer the 20mm and 30mm models as the 40mm and larger make it too easy to see the target but have enough misalignment to not see the dot. We have a 42mm Tasco Pro-point on the Neos which was the first red dot I bought, turns out I like the cheaper ones I've put on the Rugers better, but it works well now that I've gotten used to it. Its entirely possible you'd prefer a 50mm sight.

One difference with dot sights is you need to look thru the dot and focus on the target which is different from what you've learned to do with iron sights or scope reticles. Lowering the brighness often helps. Another thing, if the dot isn't round, odds are your sight is not defective -- these things really show off any astigmatism in your vision!

The 5-10 MOA dots that seem "standard" are not really great for trying to shoot them all thru the same hole, but boy are they fast in aquiring a target -- they really rock for shooting steel plates or making cans dance! If you lean more towards bullseye and shooitng the smallest possible groups, then pay extra to get the smallest dot sizes.

--wally.
 
Ok

More information....

I found out how to describe exactly what is happening...

After 5-20 shots, I pull the trigger, it goes back and goes clink... but the firing pin does not release... I dont know the internal mechanisms that great but it seems like it would be something related to that not catching

If I pull the trigger back all the way each time and hold it until the next shot, this tends to happen, if I pull and release immediately each time, ive gone 60 rounds without it randomly happening


anymore ideas? Im probably just going to send it to beretta in a few weeks
 
Sounds like sending it back is the best bet.

IF you hear a "click" and the striker doesn't release I suspect somethig is wrong with the trigger bar jumping its track and not releasing the sear -- shouldn't be able to happen.

Good luck!

--wally.
 
Try a good cleaning of your Neos using brake parts cleaner followed by "Dupont Teflon Multi-Use Dry Film Lube". $5 a can at Lowe's. I've used this instead of oil from day one, and my Neos is probably my most reliable .22 auto -- I don't clean my guns until they start messing up, I just wipe them down and put 'em back in the safe after each range session.

I've been shooting mostly Remignton "Golden Bullet" bulk Pak and Remington Thunderbolt lately because that's what has been cheapest at Academy. The Teflon spray lube leaves a slick film once the carrier has evaporates thet doesn't form the grimy "mud" I used to get when I was using Break-Free which made me need to clean 'em a lot more frequently.

Needing cleaning or re-lube every 50-100 rounds would make it a safe queen for sure!

--wally.
 
I recently bought a used neos and I am having the same trigger problem. I took it back to the gunsmith at Gander Mountain and he claimed that is a mechanical design with the gun and nothing is wrong. By quickly pulling straight back, I should be able to avoid this problem. Can anyone tell me if this is indeed an intended mechanical design?
 
Did you ever figure out your problem? I was out of country for a while and never took care f this issue, it happened infrequently enough the few times i used it.

Took it out to the ranger for the first time in a while today and it is happening a lot. cleaned/stripped it, dont see what is causing it.
 
I haven't had the first problem but I think I know whats going on with the second and there is a pretty easy fix. I think that the slide is pressing down slightly on the trigger transfer arm causing the arm not to fully engage the sear. You can check to see if this is the case by pulling up on the front of your slide and then pulling the trigger, to confirm that this is the problem repeat this but push the slide down instead of up. If the firing pin releases when pulled up but not when pushed down, then sand the "hump" in the arm with some medium grit sand paper then polish it back smooth.

I had to do this to my neos after I did a trigger job on it. I used a dremel sanding head and polishing wheel on my transfer arm and it did the trick.
 
dxkj21 said:
No no :)

I mean I pulled the trigger, nothing, firing pin did not deploy

I put it on safety, looked at it, kept it pointing in a safe direction

Then I took safety off, aimed, and then pulled the trigger and it did fire...

so it didnt fire on its own, but the safey on and off then allowed it to fire without re-racking, no clue why
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the trigger arm is worn most likely. mine did that too until i replaced the part. now it fires like a new gun.
 
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