Beretta PX4 Storm in 45ACP, 11+1 capacity?

[doublebarrel]

Searched here and the Beretta forum using "px4 45acp", for some insight on the rumored 45 version of PX4. No one knows the specs. From Google, I found this web site:

http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2900/2979.htm

The writing was very sure and positive, saying the 45 version is 11+1. Also it talked about compact and even a subcompact "Micro PX4" versions. Don't know where they got their info from...

 

[Giolli Joker]

Also it talked about compact and even a subcompact "Micro PX4" versions.

I've read something about it too, on an Italian gun magazine.

 

[otomik]

I'd like it very much to see a Beretta .45 once again being sold. I can't help but feel like they missed an opportunity with the PX4, it's not much more than a polymer Cougar and is still rather traditional.

Give me a gun with Steyr M-A1 series' ergonomics and form factor and a PX4 rotating barrel action with P7 squeeze cocking, that would be so light weight, light recoil, very strong and safe.

 

[Croyance]

This would be the version I am waiting for. I really really wanted a PX4, but managed to handle those cravings. After having had an 8045, I am really looking forward to a .45 ACP PX4.
Whoa, I just skimmed the text and they said something about a 90-Two in .45 ACP. Just direct deposit my checks with Beretta and bring that baby out!

 

[Bobo]

This is a good site for the Px4 Storm, but no mention of a .45:
http://www.px4storm.com/index.aspx?m=53&did=48

 

[doublebarrel]

That's what I was wondering. I don't know if the writer really had some insider info, or just making it up as he/she wrote...

11+1 is not bad. Ruger has had three 45's so far(albeit they're quite similar, and use same mags), all full size, and none of them a double stacker. It ain't easy to make a double-stacked 45 not too long(SW99/990L), not too thick(G21, it's not thick on paper, but feel too blockish to many people), but if XD45ACP can squeeze 13rd into a grip that doesn't look like you can put four fingers on it, it shouldn't be too hard to design one for 11...

 

[BerettaNut92]

Whoa, I just skimmed the text and they said something about a 90-Two in .45 ACP. Just direct deposit my checks with Beretta and bring that baby out!

Supposedly that's a no-go due to the open barrel design, pressure of the round or some such. That's what I was told, at least.

 

[Vex]

Supposedly that's a no-go due to the open barrel design, pressure of the round or some such. That's what I was told, at least.

But the .45acp +p saami spec is 23,000psi, while the .40S&W saami spec is 35,000psi and the 9mm +p is 38,500psi.

http://www.handloads.com/misc/saami.htm

 

[otomik]

Supposedly that's a no-go due to the open barrel design, pressure of the round or some such. That's what I was told, at least.

hmm, I remember hearing that but it doesn't make much sense, I've raised the issue on multiple occasions and here's what I got: It would be too fat.

http://www.berettaforum.net/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=010878#000006

In a nutshell, because of the way the locking block system of the 92 is designed, the gun would be about a third wider than it is now and if you break out some calipers, the 92 is already pretty wide. In addition, there are serious concerns about locking block reliability in .45 ACP. Now I realize that .45 ACP is a relatively low pressure round and before that is pointed out to me, remember that pressure is not the only thing placing stress on the locking block. In .45 the gun is moving a much heavier cartridge and launching a much heavier bullet. Despite the longevity issue, Beretta is fairly sure that at the width necessary, the gun would simply not sell, certainly not in sufficient numbers to justify the R&D.

I say bring on the Beretta .45, I welcome the "your Beretta so fat" jokes.

 

[medmo]

Where is the PX4 "Storm"?? Beretta missed the innovation boat.

 

[brickboy240]

Yeah, but they caught the "ugly boat" just fine. that PX4 sure is ugly...where was that great Italian design? It ain't no 92F in the looks dept. - is it?

Yuk!

- Brickboy240