Bergara rifles
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Ive got a b-14 timber in 30-06 and really like it. Its basically a copy of the Remington 700, with a better extractor, simpler trigger, and better bolt release location, it also has a thicker recoil lug. Another difference is the bolt knob is a round aluminum ball thats threaded on, getting aftermarket bolt knobs would be as simple as figguring out the threading.
Machining and finish on my particular gun is excellent, and the actions noticeably smoother than my most recent 700, and on par with my smoother factory actions.
The stocks on the timbers are on the thicker side. Especially thru the grip as they have a slight palm swell, but the other side of the grip dosent curve in like it does on most guns with a palm swell.
The woodsman has a leaner stock, as does the synthetic, both of which i held at the shop but dont own.
Weight on my guns just a little over 8lbs with a 3-9x40 nikon in talley rings. 1/4lb of that coming from some seriously substantial bottom metal. The aluminum botom metal from my 700 fit and was significantly lighter.
Accuracy has been good with most ammo producing 1-1.25" groups, with the worst performing bullets producing 1.5 or so.
All in all i.really like the rifle, and see it as a great option in the 650-800 dollar range.
Machining and finish on my particular gun is excellent, and the actions noticeably smoother than my most recent 700, and on par with my smoother factory actions.
The stocks on the timbers are on the thicker side. Especially thru the grip as they have a slight palm swell, but the other side of the grip dosent curve in like it does on most guns with a palm swell.
The woodsman has a leaner stock, as does the synthetic, both of which i held at the shop but dont own.
Weight on my guns just a little over 8lbs with a 3-9x40 nikon in talley rings. 1/4lb of that coming from some seriously substantial bottom metal. The aluminum botom metal from my 700 fit and was significantly lighter.
Accuracy has been good with most ammo producing 1-1.25" groups, with the worst performing bullets producing 1.5 or so.
All in all i.really like the rifle, and see it as a great option in the 650-800 dollar range.
Captcurt
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I ordered three B-14 Hunters. Two Creedmoors for me and friend, and 7mm Mag for another friend. The synthetic stocked guns are a lot of gun for the money. It is basically a 700 action with what looks to be a Timney trigger that I adjusted down to 2 3/4 lbs.. The stock is pretty solid. Not flimsy like the Axis or Patriot and is pillar bedded. The 7 Mag would shoot 1/2 MOA out of the box. I have been working on my loads but I could keep 3 shots in a 6" circle at 500 yards and that was before I found a load that it really likes. Can't wait to take it back out to the 500 yard range. What I liked was the Vortex scope with the Dead Hold Reticle. The hash marks were dead on with my load out to 500 yards. During the last deer season I ranged a doe at 357 yards and the bullet hit within inches of my aiming point.
The wood stocked gun look like they need more finish and the palm swell in the grip is a little large for me, but the synthetics are nice. My only gripe is the weight. They are heavy.
The wood stocked gun look like they need more finish and the palm swell in the grip is a little large for me, but the synthetics are nice. My only gripe is the weight. They are heavy.
rayatphonix
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I have a stalker in 6.5 Creedmoor. It's very nice and will get better when I get a chance to work up a load.
RPRNY
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That was as good a review as any, and better than many for brevity. You may want to think about doing this for a living.
Thank you for your kind words! As much as id like that, i dont see i happening in the near future lol!
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LoonWulf
Got to say both you and Captcurt gave good reviews of the Begara rifles. Good info as I have been thinking about picking up a new bolt action rifle sometime soon. Keep up the good work!
Got to say both you and Captcurt gave good reviews of the Begara rifles. Good info as I have been thinking about picking up a new bolt action rifle sometime soon. Keep up the good work!
Thanks again guys!One thing i forgot to mention, or well didnt cover well enough is the trigger. Its a much simplified version of the basic remington trigger, sear blocker an all.
Major difference is the way the trigger engages the sear, and the fact that from the factory it only comes with pull weight adjustment.
It DOES come with all the holes for over travel and engagement started but not drilled clean thru the casing. It took me about 15mins to finish drilling them and retaping any damaged threads to gain all the normal adjustments of a rem700 trigger.
Not that it was really necessary, i just really dont like over travel.
Captcurt
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I got lucky. My trigger breaks pretty clean although not a slick as the other two. The reviews that I have read said the the barrels are drilled, triple honed with diamond hones and then button rifled. It must be pretty slick because it doesn't take many patches to get it clean. I don't have a bore scope yet, but am definitely getting one. After all, it is a write off.
One thing i forgot to mention, or well didnt cover well enough is the trigger. Its a much simplified version of the basic remington trigger, sear blocker an all.
Major difference is the way the trigger engages the sear, and the fact that from the factory it only comes with pull weight adjustment.
It DOES come with all the holes for over travel and engagement started but not drilled clean thru the casing. It took me about 15mins to finish drilling them and retaping any damaged threads to gain all the normal adjustments of a rem700 trigger.
Not that it was really necessary, i just really dont like over travel.
If its the same contour as my timber, which i think it is. Than its just slightly heavier than Remingtons contour on magnums.
I would call it a heavy sporter, its actually the largest at the muzzle of any of my "sporter" guns, tho my .250 might be close.....
I posted a more in-depth review on here where i listed weights and made comparisons to a couple other rifles i own. IF i remeber correctly the barreled action from my '06 b-14 came up at nearly tue same, or slightly heavier than, my 7rem mag 700 barreled action. The 700s got a 2" longer barrel and smaller hole thru it, so as both actions are a he same size id guess the added weight on the B-14 is in the barrel.
Also a fair chunk of the guns weight is in its bottom metal, the DBM might actually be lighter than the floor plate version.
I would call it a heavy sporter, its actually the largest at the muzzle of any of my "sporter" guns, tho my .250 might be close.....
I posted a more in-depth review on here where i listed weights and made comparisons to a couple other rifles i own. IF i remeber correctly the barreled action from my '06 b-14 came up at nearly tue same, or slightly heavier than, my 7rem mag 700 barreled action. The 700s got a 2" longer barrel and smaller hole thru it, so as both actions are a he same size id guess the added weight on the B-14 is in the barrel.
Also a fair chunk of the guns weight is in its bottom metal, the DBM might actually be lighter than the floor plate version.
Agreed i think went beyond tugging a bore snake thru a couple time, maybe once in the 100-150 rounds ive put thru it now.
I agree the triggers are pretty good on these, the sear surfaces are ground and nicely polished. What causes any grit at all in the pull is they are still cast/forged (still cant tell the difference) or stamped parts. So while the casting is actually surprisingly smooth, there are still some rough spots as they dont polish the sides of the trigger or the insides of the housing.
I gutted mine and polished the sides of the trigger and housing with 1k sand paper on blocks, i didnt have to touch the engagement surfaces. Which is why i decided to go ahead and add the adjustment screws, since it was already open i mean.....
cdb1
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Don't have one but would like to. Before I get one I've got to get a Winchester M70 Sporter .270 and rebarrel my 700 ADL .270 to 6MM-06. Hopefully by then Bergara will have come out with a fast twist 22-250.
bikemutt
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Off topic a bit cdb1, but what's considered a fast twist 22-250? I only ask because I'm considering one and would like to know more.
cdb1
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1:7. I want to shoot 70-80 grain bullets. 1:8 would probably work just fine too. I'd like to push heavy for caliber bullets faster than a .223. Where I hunt you can run across bobcat, coyote, deer and hogs. I think it would be nice to have a varmint rifle that could take deer and hog in a pinch. My .243 will do it of course and so will a 6MM-06. I don't worry about hide damage. I want a 22-250 just cuz.
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