Berry's new Hollow Point bullets

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I hope they will be more consistent than Gold Dots. The last box I measured had a .025" length variance.
 
Like 'armoredman' said, they say they are doing independent testing to FBI protocall specs. They did the 45 ACP FIRST, dagnabbit, and the others are expected to be up and runningby mid-late summer-ish.

Their other TP/DS bullets are very consistent in my experience. No where near .025" length variation 918v found in the Gold Dots.
2-3 thousandths length variation I have seen in the looong .619" 124 HBRN.
Most of the Berry's bullets I load have been the 124 HBRN TS DS at minor PF velocities.
I have also loaded several varieties from the sample packs and some 130gr and 135gr.
 
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Looks like the launch date for retail sales has been pushed back to late summer to early fall. According to the website update, all current hollow point bullets will be discontinued and replaced by the new "expanding" premium HP bullets!

Looking forward to the retail launch date and planning on doing a side-by-side comparison with Gold Dot HP bullets.
Products: New Hollow Points
Our New Hollow Points are Going through process development with a handfull of OEM customers, our target date for release will be late summer to early fall.

We'll be offering the hollow points initially in .45, .40 and 9mm and will get it into the full line by the end of the year. At this time we are not taking orders but as soon as we have an update it will be posted on the website.

The goal is to replace all of our current Hollow Point bullets with our new design starting with the most popular calibers. Our customer service reps won't have any additional information on the new HP's, stay tuned to the website for updates.
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Speaking of teasing....

BDS, I thought you were delivering the long awaited post. Sigh.
 
GW Staar said:
BDS, I thought you were delivering the long awaited post. Sigh.
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Sorry :D If the delay is caused by further product testing as indicated by others, I am all for it. It is better to push back the product release date and have things worked out. Also having quantities/inventories available by the retail vendors will be key as I anticipate the initial interest/demand for these bullets may be very high and that demand will probably be sustained if the bullet performances meet expectations.


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The only thing that would make it superior is if it was more cost effective.
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The fact that all current HP bullets will be replaced by the new "premium" HP bullets is a promising sign. Besides, Berry's MFG just needs to price their new HP bullets marginally lower than Speer Gold Dot to make them attractive.

You can't really beat a gold dot.
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That's my consensus too and look forward to side-by-side comparisons/range tests when the new bullets come out. Years ago (actually decades ago), I thought Federal's Hydra-Shok bullets were as good as they were going to get. Now I use Speer Gold Dot, Remington Golden Saber and Winchester Ranger-T (Black Talon) for SD/HD. So you never know and time will tell. ;)

From Berry's MFG stand point, if their new HP bullets provide comparable expansion performance as Gold Dots with slightly lower cost, they may do quite well, especially being available as bulk bullets for reloaders.
 
And especially if you can actually buy some of them!!!

Speer has been backed up on supplying bullets for handloaders ever since they got the multi-million dollar contract from the French Police a few years ago.

I got fustrated even looking for 135 grain Short-Barrel .357 bullets I about gave up.
When I finally did find somebody that had some, I had to pay scalpers prices for them.

rc
 
Midway finally had some for 20.99, and I bought 100, but they are already out of stock already, and showing a price of 23.49.

The Berrys better be significantly cheaper than the Speer Gold Dot.
 
If Berry's MFG is moving to compete with other "premium" HP bullets, 185 gr and 230 gr are currently two most popular bullet weights and I can't imagine Berry's MFG not offering their new HP bullets in these two weights. ;)
 
I don't see the point.
Unless you want to ignore the Internet Legal Beagles and load your own gun fighting ammo, the expansiveness of a 185 gr .45 HP does not seem a big selling point.
(But then I am debating just that, so I should get some.)
Maybe they are angling for sales to the small "factory" producers who are probably having trouble getting enough name brand bullets.
 
aah, wish I had it in the finances... A $300 primer order from PV and a $100 bullet order from extreme has my fun money tied up for the month :(

Edit: Jim- why do you think gold dots, golden sabers, xtp's etc bullets that are used in premium rounds are sold for reloading? some people like to be able to afford to practice with a premium bullet at a tulammo price point.
 
I'd rather test 230 grain bullets, because that's what I carry.

BTW, if I reload my Gold Dot Brass with more Gold Dots, so that they look and shoot identical to factory rounds....do you really think a lawyer would know the difference? Such might require me to unload a factory round to see what the powder looks like.:D
 
Reefinmike,

Exactly. You might well want to practice with premium HPs loaded to simulate your factory favorite.
But these are not yet proven. Loading them simulates nothing.
 
I don't see the point.
Unless you want to ignore the Internet Legal Beagles and load your own gun fighting ammo, the expansiveness of a 185 gr .45 HP does not seem a big selling point.
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I just ordered some and look forward to loading some to see how they perform. I have factory rounds for CCW....the chances of me needing them are fairly slim. However, if things went south and society fell apart, the last thing I would be worried about is using my own quality reloads, perhaps made with these new bullets, for my self defense.
 
There you go. ditto on those points......but I'm patient.....you all test these real good so that they start building the 230 grain versions! Then I'll buy them for the same reasons.
 
185 gr bullets

I just ordered some. I'll see how they compare to the other 185 JHP's that I have data for.
Pat
 
Hmmmm?

How exactly did you order them, when they have never been available for order on their website.

They were announced two years ago in the Berry catalog.
(I still have the catalog.)

But, they are still today not listed on the website as being available for order.

Just wondering??

rc
 
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