MADDOG
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I am going to buy some boolits. I am thinking Berrys and/or Rainier. I will be using them for plinking and target. 357 mag and 44mag. Is one better than the other? Thanks
Berrys or Rainier ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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ReloaderFred
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Berry's has always worked well for me. Just keep plated bullets below about 1,250 fps and don't over crimp.
Hope this helps.
Fred
Hope this helps.
Fred
hotwheelz
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I have heard both a going to drop there prices in the begining of next year might want to see what happens by the middle of next month if you can..
I have used both and gotten good results with both. For 230 Gr RN .45 the Berrys is a better bullet than the Ranier 230 Gr RN. Raniers 200 Gr SWC shoots great, as does their 9MM 115 Gr RN. Ranier priced themselves out of contention with me. That is when I discovered Berrys. They make a great product. Two of my favorite .45 bullets now are Berrys 185 Gr SWC & 200 Gr HP. The 200 Gr HP makes a nice hole in targets, will feed in anything, and will shoot into one hole with the right load. Their 158 Gr HP shoots very well for me in .38 Spl and downloaded .357. Their 125 Gr TrFP also shoots very well if you don't push it to hard. The 148 Gr DEWC cuts perfect holes in targets and is very accurate.
Chief-7700
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I found that the TMJ bullets to expensive, granted I did start out with Rainier's 230 TMJRN for $36.00 p/ 500. Now I shoot 200gr LSWC from www.bulletworks 1k for $70.00........
Chief
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Both have worked for me. You can't go wrong with either brand. You might also try http://www.precisionbullets.com, I really like the bullets and the price.
actionflies
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Buy here, cheaper than cabelas or berry's website and price include shipping. I have bought many thousands from them and will buy again.
http://www.tjconevera.com/berrys-bullets.html
http://www.tjconevera.com/berrys-bullets.html
rfwobbly
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Berry.
• Rainer doesn't sell direct unless you're into mega lots, which leaves you to Midway or some other outlet.
• Berry sells direct, or you can go to Grafs when you need bullets AND other supplies.
Other than the ordering mechanism, the bullets are fairly similar in performance.
• Rainer doesn't sell direct unless you're into mega lots, which leaves you to Midway or some other outlet.
• Berry sells direct, or you can go to Grafs when you need bullets AND other supplies.
Other than the ordering mechanism, the bullets are fairly similar in performance.
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I've been shooting Ranier's in 40 S&W for several years now, I buy the 2000 bullet bulk packs with free shipping from midwayusa, I've never had a problem with them. I just ordered some Berry's 135 gr from Cabela's, as part of my $30 off $150 order. We'll see how they do.
The Bushmaster
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First...That's spelled "B-U- L-L-E-T"...
I have been playing with Rainier bullets (PHP) and have found them pretty good for working up practice rounds. I would amagin that Berry's would be a good buy too.
I have been playing with Rainier bullets (PHP) and have found them pretty good for working up practice rounds. I would amagin that Berry's would be a good buy too.
jjohnson
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Both are okay, but the prices aren't.
Well, guys, I started shooting Raniers quite a few years ago, when lead was cheap (remember those days?) and going 'plated' was a big deal... but Rainier had hollowpoints....
Rainier was pretty good... always more than cast, but always way less than jacketed. Like many of you, I found that they priced themselves out of competition. No way I'll pay for plated the same money I'd pay for jacketed (if I catch 'em on sale).
If they start selling 20% cheaper than jacketed
, I'll look again.
Berry's has been pretty good - and whether I buy 'em from Grafs, like I usually do, or elsewhere, I don't feel like I've been had every time. Right now, I would like to stockpile some bullets, but I'm buying 'slowly' because I'm waiting for lead prices falling enough to pass on the savings to me as a consumer.
Well, guys, I started shooting Raniers quite a few years ago, when lead was cheap (remember those days?) and going 'plated' was a big deal... but Rainier had hollowpoints....
Rainier was pretty good... always more than cast, but always way less than jacketed. Like many of you, I found that they priced themselves out of competition. No way I'll pay for plated the same money I'd pay for jacketed (if I catch 'em on sale).
If they start selling 20% cheaper than jacketed
, I'll look again.Berry's has been pretty good - and whether I buy 'em from Grafs, like I usually do, or elsewhere, I don't feel like I've been had every time. Right now, I would like to stockpile some bullets, but I'm buying 'slowly' because I'm waiting for lead prices falling enough to pass on the savings to me as a consumer.
SSN Vet
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+1,000
Berry's lost my business when I found I could get "real" jacketed Zero bullets from Roze Dist. for the same or less. Yes!!! a 'real' cannalure.
My guess is that they had more business than they could shake a stick at and couldn't keep up so they decided it was time to see what the market would bear price wise and start making some money.
I don't fault them. Why put up with the incredible risk of running your own business (esp. anything to do with firearms) if your not going to make a decent living at it.
They had better be careful that they don't shoot themselves in the foot over the long haul though.
jjohnson
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No Good Deed
Okay, no good deed ever went unpunished.
Please - if you're going to mention a lower cost alternative, please do include the weblink so we can all share the resource.....
Entirely possible that some folks raised their prices just to keep the frivolous product orders down to something closer to 'only' 100% of their capacity. That
takes a little 'supply and demand' thinking - maybe some of them just got greedy.
But whatever the reason, I think many of us reloaders are driven by econometrics, and hate rising lead prices like rising gas prices
Okay, no good deed ever went unpunished.
Please - if you're going to mention a lower cost alternative, please do include the weblink so we can all share the resource.....
Entirely possible that some folks raised their prices just to keep the frivolous product orders down to something closer to 'only' 100% of their capacity. That
takes a little 'supply and demand' thinking - maybe some of them just got greedy.
But whatever the reason, I think many of us reloaders are driven by econometrics, and hate rising lead prices like rising gas prices
I've used both with good results but I haven't bought Rainiers in a long time since they seem to think they're worth jacketed bullet prices. At least Berry's sells factory direct and their prices have come down some. I'm waiting until next year to stock up since the collapse in lead and fuel prices hasn't filtered down to retail bullets yet. The manufacturers and retailers lucked out with the election (for the moment anyway) since it's helped them clear out a lot of high priced inventory. Hopefully we'll start seeing some meaningful price reductions next year.
schmeky
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Plated are fine, I have used quite a few myself, but Zero jacketed is cheaper than these plated bullets and just as good, if not better.
There's a guy on Gunbroker that sells Zero's at a very competitive price for .40 and .45. His service is also excellent.
Why buy an alternative when you can have the real thing?
There's a guy on Gunbroker that sells Zero's at a very competitive price for .40 and .45. His service is also excellent.
Why buy an alternative when you can have the real thing?
If you're referring to the previous post by SSN Vet, Google worked quite well for me....jjohnson said:
http://www.rozedist.com/
But I do appreciate not having to guess.
Their prices are pretty good, in some cases quite comparable to plated.
Ghost Holster as well for Zero bullets. Since I am in Al., I have to pay sales tax if I buy from Roze Distribution.
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