BEST 44 MAG AMMO FOR BEAR DEFENCE

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im going to alaska this june for the salmon run. as you know where there are large numbers of salmon you can count on grizley bears. i dont want to become a snack for a big grizley while im there so i just picked up a S&W 629 in 44 mag. I was wondering what the best ammo to carry to stop that bear where he stands. I have a buddy that said to epoxy a ball berring inide of the hollow point of the bullet. anyone try this will it effect the bullet?
thanks
 
Your freinds crazy. I'd recomend CorBon penetrators if you can get them sighted to poa.
 
im going to alaska this june for the salmon run. as you know where there are large numbers of salmon you can count on grizley bears. i dont want to become a snack for a big grizley while im there so i just picked up a S&W 629 in 44 mag. I was wondering what the best ammo to carry to stop that bear where he stands. I have a buddy that said to epoxy a ball berring inide of the hollow point of the bullet. anyone try this will it effect the bullet?
thanks

Bad idea.

You don't want a hollowpoint. Hollowpoints drag on tissue, and you want solid penetration.

You want to probably handload some extremely hard cast lead bullets behind a healthy charge of either Hodgdon H110 powder or Winchester 296. Furthermore, you want a LOT of these cartridges because you need to practice. 1 box of 20rds of exotic ammo aint gonna cut it because you won't be accurate without some practice.

I'd suggest a 250gr Keith LSWC gas-checked bullet from Beartooth Bullets as a minimum starting point. Preferably something even heavier... you may want to hold off on going all the way up to 300gr though, in a Smith 629.

A 250gr bullet at 1400fps that you shoot well is a heck of a lot better protection than a 250gr bullet at 1500fps that you can't control because you couldn't afford to practice with it. Corbon and Buffalo Bore may be able to get 100fps above handload data, but they're going to make you pay for it.

To stop a bear where he stands, a torso shot won't do it. You need a head shot, a spine shot or a shoulder/hip shattering shot, anchoring him.

Get a lot of ammo identical to what you will carry in the field, and practice. If you end up only having 6 rounds left when you go to alaska, so be it.
 
If you want real protection from Bears then you really should be carrying a shotgun loaded with slugs. As for the .44 Magnum I would suggest a heavy hardcast bullet. Buffalo Bore http://www.buffalobore.com/ammunition/default.htm#44, Double Tap Beartooth and 320 gr hardcast rounds http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/ca...21_35&osCsid=1f77add2663070404c48ea60247bac29, CorBon;s offerings http://www.dakotaammo.net/products/corbon/hunter.htm and to a lesser extent Federal's CastCore and Remington's Core-Lokt Hunting rounds are only some examples.

IMO Double Tap and Buffalo Bore are probably the best because they have a high velocity round which will penetrate deeper but you will have to decide for yourself. You should get a few different rounds and give them a try and see which fire best in YOUR gun and are the most accurate when YOU fire them. I suggest you do rapid fire drills to make sure, your life just might depend upon you being able to hit the mark under pressure.
 
"Punch" bullets are produced by Belt Mountain Enterprise (famous for their oversize base pins). The bullets are bronze and lathe turned. They will be the ultimate in penetration, but quite expensive to shoot in volumn (which you should if your life is dependent on your abality to shoot this bullet/load WELL). My recommendation is hardcast lead (Wide Flat Nose) of 280 gr. +, at 1200+ FPS. This can be a handfull in a lighter "packing" revolver, but should be adequate if you can shoot accurately and fairly rapidly. As has been said; my first choice would be a 12 ga. slug gun, or perhaps a .375/.416/.458 bolt gun.
 
Pretty hard to fish and carry a shotgun at the same time - at least in a manner in which you could get it into action quickly. There was an incident a year or two back in which somebody ended up throwing the shotgun at the bear :rolleyes:

So a handgun on the belt beats a shotgun slung on your back ;)

Best solution would probably be to fish in groups, taking turns with one member of your group not fishing but instead watching over the others while holding a big caliber rifle.
 
I like the Super Blackhawk with 7.5" and it would carry nice in a shoulder rig or across the front chest holster while fishing.
I haven't carried mine like that yet and actually carry a .40 s&w or a short .357 Ruger speed-six for more comfort while fishing or woods walking.
I have seen very few bears growing up in Mt and spending alot of time in the outdoors. Those that I did see were usually fleeing my presence.
I f I lived in Ak or somewhere that I knew I would see the bigger types, I would carry the SBH .44 or a shotty depending on the terrain I would be in.
Best-MC
 
If you are in a Salmon rich environment just do not molest the bears. They are there for the salmon heads and skins, not you. Plenty of fish for everyone.

If you are in the interior where the bears work for a living, then you might find yourself face to face in an entirely different situation. A handgun is not a good choice for big bear. Hand canons are marginal and not easy to control in .44 mag and up under stress. Stick to a good bear spray and a .38 to finish yourself off before the bear does. Just kidding about the .38.

A short barrel large bore rifle or shotgun would be the best choice. The .44 with good hard cast rounds from Double Tap or Buffalo as backup.

Above all, the bears are not really interested in you. Study up on bear behavior before you go and talk with the locals.

Have fun, nothing like fishing in Alaska.
 
Smith 629 or Ruger Redhawk is the favored gun for guides. 44 mag will do, but there are larger cal. options Casul and the Smith 500.

Big bullet with as much muzzle energy as you can manage. JSP in 240 gr. There's 265 gr. available for 44 mag. but some loads won't clear the front end of the cylinder.

You'd be smart to get familiar with bear, behavior, what it takes to stop one.
 
The links that ArchAngelCD & Seventhsword provided are worth looking at - although the 12ga. shotgun is still the best choice - loaded with Brenneke Slugs, forget the 00 buckshot. I carry both a 4" 629 & a Remington 870 12ga. with an 18" barrel whenever I am out enjoying the Great Outdoors, by the way I do live in South-Central Alaska & have since 1968.
 
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