Best Barrell length/lug for GP-100

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What is the best barrel/lug length for a GP-100 in terms of recoil control and balance?

I am thinking of getting one for a house gun and target shooting.

How about holster availability for the various barrel lengths?
 
"If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one..."

For your stated purposes, the 6" full-lug bbl. would be a good one.
Blued or Stainless, whichever you prefer.
I've got a high-polish stainless version that is one of my favorite firearms.
Good Luck!
 
For your stated purposes, the 6" full-lug bbl. would be a good one.
Blued or Stainless, whichever you prefer.
I've got a high-polish stainless version that is one of my favorite firearms.


You don't find the 6" barrel to be nose heavy at all?
 
Not at all. Even the RangeMaster liked it.
I wanted the full length of 6" to assist in the 'oomph' of the .357 cartridge.
I went on a Google Search just for fun and found a pic of one like mine, only it has a Holosight on top...
Mine is just as Ruger made it with a Hogue grip. I'm going to get another Hogue grip in wood to interchange with a new Ruger Super Redhawk .44 I'll be getting soon. The SRH is going to get a 'blackened' stainless steel finish; a true stain that goes into the stainless steel as opposed to a coating of any additional thickness. This will go better with my hunting rifle and shotgun.
Anyway, here's the pic of the "GKGP-161":
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The 6" full underlug is not nose heavy at all.
It balances very well and holds very steady for long shots.

If you're not used to shooting long barreled revolvers then yes, it will feel heavy at first, but after a little shooting you realize how good it feels.
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Unfortunately there is no "best" or that's all everyone would buy. We all have varying tastes and needs.

If target shooting is the primary use for the gun, then a 6" would be an excellent choice. But for most other applications, I find a 6" to be much too long, cumbersome,and unbalanced myself. Fortunately there are a lot of different frame and barrel configurations available, 'cause no one gun could possibly even come close to doing it all.

My 6" 686 is my least used (and least maneuverable) of 17 or 18 S&W and Ruger DA revolvers that I have. Of course I don't spend much of my shooting time doing long distance precision target shooting. Most of my shooting practice is close to mid range (ten to 25 feet), double action, quick moving defensive type shooting... not sloooow, careful squeezing for precision placement at great distances. Yes, it's a well made and accurate gun and I do enjoy shooting it once in a while, but for me, I much prefer the feel, weight, maneuverability, and balance of a 3" K-frame or GP-100 the most, followed by a 4" GP-100 or K-/L-frame. Quick moves from target to target is much more difficult with a 6" barrel than with a 3 or 4", though the added weight helps a little in keeping the nose down.

Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it) no single gun is the best for everything, not necessarily even the best for any one application, much less several. I have distinct use and preferences for a 2" 624, 3" SP-101, 3" GP-100, 3" K-frame models, 4" GP and L-models, and, finally, 6" models. All depends on the intended use.

Go to a gun shop and hold these guns to get a feel for them. That will help you decide.

If you want one gun to try to cover numerous needs, my recommendation would be a 4" GP-100 with adjustable sights. Not ideal at any one thing, but a 4" revolver is great for general use and passable for some other uses. Home defense, target shooting, camping/hiking, plinking, it'll do fine. Long distance/precision accuracy work, it's ok, but the 6" is easier to be accurate with due to the longer sighting radius.

Carry/defense duty a 3" is ideal; 4" so-so to ok; 6" wacky. Deep concealment/carry gun go with a small frame 2" or 3" J-frame or SP-101.

What I'm getting at is that you need to decide what you reaaaally want to do with this gun and pick one which does that especially well... then plan on buying another one or two (or three or more) to cover your other bases properly. But if you've got to stick pretty much with one gun... make it a 3" if carry & defense is more important or a 4" if defense & target is more important.

My favorite GP-100 (I have three of them) is this one:

Ruger GP-100 3" Barrel, Blue Steel, Fixed sights, .357 magnum (GPF-331)
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Feel in the hand, weight, size, comfort, shootability, durability, poiintability, concealability, pack-ability, and defense accuracy for close to mid-range use is superb. Puts a big smile on my face every time I handle it. :cool:
 
What is the best barrel/lug length for a GP-100 in terms of recoil control and balance?

Recoil control? 6" full lug, no doubt.
Balance? 5", problem is, Ruger doesn't make a 5" (although I think Davidson's had a special run of them a while back). I find the 6" to be a bit nose heavy, but a LOT more stable than the 4", great for target shooting or hunting, bad for maneuvering around bad guys. The 4" doesn't suck up as much recoil, but it's still a heavy gun that full charge magnums aren't unpleasant in them (I shoot 158-gr magnums from mine).

I am thinking of getting one for a house gun and target shooting.
Then concealed carry is not an issue? If so, I'd say the 4" is the best all-purpose barrel length and will serve well. IF you decide to carry it, the 4" is managable, the 6" is a pain.

How about holster availability for the various barrel lengths?
Most of the holster makers I prefer have a much wider selection for the 4".
 
I like the balance of the 4" full underlug one myself. In fact, that's the one I own. The 4" half underlug models seem a bit muzzle light. I don't like 6" barrels on any gun. The 3" full underlug guns seem to be pretty well balanced as well.

CHL, if you haven't shot one yet, we can meet at the NRA range so you can shoot mine. I have mild 38s and heavy 180gr loads. You can bring the midweight stuff. :)

Chris
 
What I'm getting at is that you need to decide what you reaaaally want to do with this gun and pick one which does that especially well... then plan on buying another one or two (or three or more) to cover your other bases properly. But if you've got to stick pretty much with one gun... make it a 3" if carry & defense is more important or a 4" if defense & target is more important.


I actually already have a 2.25" SP-101 for concealed carry, the GP-100 is going to be an all-around house / target gun.
 
For house and target I'd go with the 4".
I didn't notice the house part in the first post.
I think in a defensive situation the 6" barrel is too slow and a little bit too long, it could get snagged on clothing or something.
Otherwise if it was just a range gun then definately the 6"
 
I have a six inch full underlugged GP-100 and I find it to be slightly muzzle heavy, but it really dampens the recoil impulse with heavy loads. A good compromise would be the full underlugged four inch barrel.
 
Does this look like a gun you can handle nimbly and quickly in close quarters around the house?

Smith & Wesson Model 686 .357 Magnum 6" barrel
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Poor choice as a defense gun, too, as the barrel makes a nice handle for some bad guy to grab and try to wrestle away from you. For defense, it's much better to use a gun which you can keep close to your body and which doesn't present an easy means for a scumbag to grab away from you. And since I introduced the defense aspect, I would stay away from ports as well for defense use as holding a ported gun close to your body while shooting isn't a good idea at all. Ports are fine on a heavy magnum hunting revolver, but dumb on a defense gun.

Yes, the 6" barrel is great for hunting and at a target range where distances are 50' to 75' or more and you're going for precision bullseye shots, but for almost everything else, especially quicker and closer-in stuff, or defensive use of any kind, a 6" barrel is a poor choice as compared to shorter barrels.
 
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A very unhelpful suggestion

Why not buy a 4" and a 6". I own the 6" GP100 and I really like shooting it at the range. Between the heavier barrel and the Ruger factory grips I find that I can shoot .357 rounds all day long. On the other hand I also own a 4" S&W 686+. Like DHart pointed out they both have their strengths and weaknesses. But I'd probably get the 4" model first and then buy the 6" later.
 
I like my 4" GP-100 a lot....

I'd say that for 'all-round' use the 4" length is more handy than the 6".

The fixed sight models have a smaller grip than the adj. sight models, which I find to be more comfortable, but these will interchange between all GP-100.

A fine strong revolver, in any barrel length. :D
 
Does this look like a gun you can handle nimbly and quickly in close quarters around the house?

I actually came pretty close to buying a 686+ from Galyans in N. Virginia, however this was when Fairfax County VA was allowed to have its own handgun registration scheme, wait period, etc. so never bought it.

I have decided to stick with Ruger for new revolvers.
 
Ive got the 6 inch gp100 and can shoot good at 50 feet on the range. cant hit sh..t with my 2 " sp101 beyond 15'. but fits in the pocket better. just got the gp100 3 inch. Ill keep this one for home duty. wonderful balance on it. I highly recomend it for a home defense revolver.
 
I am a big fan of 3" and 4" revolvers. Periodically I get an urge for a 6". There have been 2 interesting things I have found in reading different posts.

1) In GP100's given the same load, 4" barrels are quite close in velocity to 6". If I remember correctly, there is generally less than 50 feet or so difference. maybe someone has more info on that.

2)There seems to be a lot discussion of 6" being too long or giving too much leverage in a fight. I believe up until security holsters came in 6" barrels were the status quo for police. Therefore probably pretty good for defense. There is validity to the argument for a longer barrel being able to provide more torque but I rarely see those folks suggest pulling the trigger as a countermeasure. Just another opinion.
 
No one has mentioned the 6" half-lug as a compromise of barrel length and balance. I only bring this up as that is the one I have, and I like it. A shorter barrelled one would be nice to have as well, but since a 4" GP-100 is also pretty bulky and not ideal for carry (I don't know about the 3" one as I've only breifly handled one and it seemed pretty "compact" to me), I don't think you'd be giving up a whole lot by going with the 6". As to the comment about it being too long to use defensively because someone could "grab it", it seems kind of ludicrous. First of all, we are talking 2 INCHES of difference, and if someone was trying to grab your 6" barrel in the middle of a gunfight, it would stand to reason that they would probably try grabbing your 4" as well. Also, anyone who is attempting to grab the barrel of your loaded gun should have been shot long before they got anywhere near close enough to attempt it. Just my $0.02.
 
Hey if all I had was a 6" revolver, I'm sure I could do a decent job of defending myself with it, no doubt about that! Ya know, 2,3,4,5,6... they will all get the job done... but what we're talking about here in comparing the different lengths are the fine points of subtlty, not the basics. But if a 6" barrel is what you feel you need to be happy... who am I to argue with that? I say go for it and be happy! :D
 
Gp 100

My favorites are :the 3' fixed sight and the 6" half lug w/adjustables.
Ideally, the 3" in aTarget Grey Finish w/adjustables would be available.
 
I think a 4" full underlug would be a ideal range/house gun.You would have a large selection of holsters to chose from.With some research low-flash 357mags can be found so a shorter than 6" inch barrel would not be a draw back.
 
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