Best cap and ball revolver for a beginner?

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Though my personal favorite is the Colt 1860 Army, I would recommend an 1858 Remington replica for someone just getting started.

The Remington design offers a much simplified take-down for cleaning and maintenance, better sights (if only marginally) and fewer parts to keep track of.

IMO, the Uberti-made replicas have some small practical advantages. The dovetailed front sight offers a much easier and more convenient alternative to turning the barrel in or out to correct for windage error. The rear is truly 'fixed' and therefore not subject adding a random element into the sighting equation with every cocking.

I would second buying the steel framed model. More rugged and much less subject to wear over the longer run. I'd also suggest that a .36 caliber might be a good option to consider. What I'm thinking here is not so much less recoil, as there really isn't that much in a .44 C&B, as that they use less powder and the balls are generally a good deal cheaper, too. Don't know if that's an issue for you in Austria, but perhaps something to think about if you'd rather keep the expenditures to a minmum while you're experimenting.
 
Well no here it is ....Master Catalog Spring 2008 ..it says( one shot save offer expires 3/3/2008 ) guess you`all didn`t get the memo ...lol ..give them a call ..this is true ..169.00 bucks for the steel frame 1858 remmie 44 . haven`t seen a new one for that price in years ..I might buy one and resell it latter .
 
Hello.:). I have checked the pices of the different uberti models and I wil start with an remington 1858. Thx for your help.


ps I have also seen an ruger old army at a good price, but as i want to start with an historical correct gun, the remington ist the better choice.
 
I bought 2 1858s from Cabelas last week.
$169 for each.
However one was in the wrong box... I got the 5.5" barrel for the 8" price.
Went back... found out it was a mistake... and left with the 8"
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Jim
 
G of C it doesn`t look like a miss print and it is for the steel frame 1858 ..it`s not on sale in the hard back catalog it`s the Spring 2008 paper back Master Catalog on page 461 .the sale price is high lighted in red and there`s a oneshot save 30 bucks sticker over the gun ...If you want one I`d call them and make them stand behind this catalog sale price...says offer expires 3/3/2008
 
And what do do you think about the qualtiy of Uberti? Do they make good guns?
 
I've been disappointed by Pietta but not by Uberti. In my opinion Pedersoli has the best quality and they do have a 58 and if I remember right the parts are made in Germany but they are expensive. Second to Pedersoli would be Uberti and then Pietta. The Spanish made guns are last.
 
Best C&B Revolver for a Beginner....

I would, as my screen name suggests, say that the 1858 Remington is by far the best pistol for a beginner.

It was my first gun.

The remington, is easier to dissassemble, and easier to clear a problem than the colt.

Remingtons also tend to shoot more to point of aim, Colts all shoot high.

You can get a Remme with adjustable sights, good for a beginner.

And if your new to black powder, deffinitly get a stainless gun. good for when you forget to clean after a shoot.

Another reason to get a remmie..... Its easy to drop in a conversion cylinder and shoot modern 45colt loads. R&D and Kirst make great conversions.
 
Nothing wrong with the Pietta Remmie at all ..mine was nice out of the box ..and just got better with time . My Uberti on the other hand , smoother action out of the box ...fit and finish on both are good though . Both are so well built these days ..it would be hard to say which is better ..expecially compairing prices .
 
I didnt know about the sale price on the first 1858 I bought... was just pleasently surprised by it.
The 2nd one... well, I went there with intent to buy it for the sale price.
Guy behind the counter had no clue about the sale and tried to tell me it was $199. We took it to the cashier in firearms for a check... sure enough... $169.
I am considering grabbing a couple more to sell later on when the price on em jumps again.


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I agree with all the above posts that the 58 remmington is best for the beginner. I would also suggest a 44 cal as pyrodex does make pellets in 30 grain for this caliber. It would make for easier loading for a beginner. I would also get a extra cylinder and get everything in stainless for cleaning purposes. Also if you ever want to convert to cartridge the 58 is well suited and kits are readily available. I happen to own a couple of 60 colts and yes I do like the looks and feel of them, they do have design issues. Take my word for it go with the 58 Remmingtons, you won,t be sorry
 
K. Okay. One-hundred-and-SIXTY-nine-dollars for an 1858 Remington. A Pietta 1858 Remington. Great price. But, not saying I’ll buy one. It would mean I’d have an almost identical revolver, as a back-up gun. Which, not saying that saying that I’ll buy one. Could use the conversion cylinder, when the other one is attached to the stock; not saying that saying that I’ll buy one, though. Spare parts, in a pinch. Resale value. Could have a yard sale, this weekend. Still, not saying that saying that I’ll buy one.

But, maybe it won’t hurt to just order the spring catalog and sort of, kind of have a look-see at what Cabela’s has to offer. For, ah… educational purposes. Yeah. That fall catalog is getting kind of dog-eared, anyway. And, if the new catalog doesn’t get here in time I can just give them a cal… Oh.

Yep. Am all running out of nials – de-nial-ing, right now, in fact. :cuss:
 
Hi Agent

I just checked Frankonia Jagd to see what they offered in blackpowder. It seems like you have as good a choice as we do....maybe better with the exchange rates being as they are. They offer a Pietta built steel frame 1851 Colt Navy in .36 or .44 caliber for 245 Euros. I recently picked up the same pistole in .44 cal. It seems very well made. Its my first one also. I chose it because it seemed to have all the qualities......long, sleek, readily identifiable in many, many photos from our Civil War.......I also got a great price......$165 or 239 Euros.......about what you would pay.

I assume you can purchase from Germany.......maybe even have it bought and shipped to you........but then, your laws are different from ours.

Whatever you choose, have fun!
 
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