I agree with the above statements as well.
No two guns, bbls, chokes are always going to be the same. We suggest running back to store and buying the same lot # of an ammo for a reason, lot changes can make a difference. As Lee pointed out, they quit making a load, or change the load when aquired by another.
Modified is really really hard to beat across the board as stated. Some like IC, some IC+. Folks forget actual bore diameters vary. NOT all bores are by golly .729.
For example, MOD is considered .020 constriction [20 points] .020 points of constriction for a .729 are NOT the same for a bore .735, one is "now" .709 and the other is .715. These "six points" in difference , do play a roll downrange.
Art and Science folks. Only the pattern board can determine for sure for loads at ranges.
(when you can use a 3X5" card at 25 yards for patterning paper, you're getting there...)
Lee, now while I only pay 50 cents for 100 3 X5 index cards, the FREE playing cards are cheaper. Either the partial deck or brand new ones with a logo...patterning is patterning.
Yes one can 'pattern' a buckshot load onto playing cards or 3x5 index cards.
WITHOUT having to spend a lot of money. How does $8 sound to get a bone stock gun to do this with off the shelf loads?
I have seen the Card Shooters do this too - Some spend big bucks, some find a better performer with less expensive tweaks.
Tools for tasks.
True story- I just heard today. Fellow calls the gunsmith, has a 3.5" Shotgun.
"I need my gun fixed so the #4 buckshot hits what I need it too. I have tried both chokes that came with the gun."
"Well sir I can take a look at it, I can perhaps see if by chance if there needs to be forcing cone work as well..., The box stores by the way , do sell Rem Chokes - you may want to try one of them, and I do have access to after market ones <names these>...oh by the way- at what RANGES are you pattering at?" - asks the Gunsmith.
"Pattering, what is that?
I done tried shooting 5 deer, and missed all of them. I tried 2 3/4", I tried 3" , even 3.5" shells...see it is about 100 - 120 yards from my maintenance barn to this spot where they to come of of the woods..."
"Sir, in all due respect, 100 yds is too far for #4 or any buckshot, may I suggest slugs, better yet - you got a 30-30 rifle...that'd be your best best" - Gunsmith.
"Nope, can't do that, daddy always said to use #4 buck on deer, never slugs , so I use #4 buck for racoons, deer geese...."
[geese...umm...non toxic loads] Gunsmith is thinking...
"Sir, I believe you be best served to contact Remington, they made that gun and they make ammo as you know - I just have to be honest and say in this case - Remington advice is better than mine. I do appreciate call...".
What does a dime and a barrel tell ya young'un?
Means I got 10 cents and a barrel grandpa
Yep.
Just 'cause you gotta shotgun and buckshot....only means you gotta a shotgun and some buckshot loads...about it...until more investigation is done.