best cleaners

[Franco2shoot]

I've been using Hoppes #9 for as long as I can remember, I've also used Hoppes copper solvent, but I'm wondering if there is a better cleaner.

The 1943 Mosin Nagant I have has really nice rifeling, but the bore is not silvery shiny metal. After numerous passes with the wire brush, and then a couple dozen patches the bore is clean ( the patches are as white when they come out as they were when they went in ) just not chrome like shiny. Is there a solvent that will make it look bare metal?

I should mention that its putting holes in the paper that are within an inch and a half of each other.

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[EMT40SW]

I have found that IOSSO bore cleaner which is a paste to be far superior to most other cleaners. It has no odor so I can clean indoors. You just put an oilly patch down the bore to loosen the fouling and then a nylon brush with the paste. Some others that work well are Gun scrubber & Shooters chioce.
Get some of thier eliminator oil while you are at it:
http://www.iosso.com/MivaStore/merc...&Product_Code=00012&Category_Code=GunCleaning

 

[tmccray45]

Franco:

I also have a '43 Mosin-Nagant and seemed to spend an awful lot of time cleaning, and never getting it "clean". I read a post about the home-made electronic cleaners and decided to give it a try. I used the mix of ammonia and vinegar for the first cleaning and then straight ammonia the second time.

Ya should have seen the stuff that boiled out! After throwing the switch, the mixture began to bubble out and within ten seconds, it changed from white bubbles to a light tan and then to a dark brown. Terrible things were coming out of that barrel!!

I wiped it down with Eds Red and took it to the range. The first shot was a flyer at 2 o'clock. The second was about 5 inches at 2 o'clock. The third was about 3 inches at 2 o'clock. Subsequent shots were fairly tight at 1 to 2 inches and at 2 o'clock.

This was a great improvement over the pre-electronic cleaning. Before, I would be all over the place - some at 4 inches and 2 o'clock, the next 3 inches at 8 o'clock, etc.

I had to wrap up operations after only about ten shots due to a prior commitment, so I need to take it back to the range.

Oh, one more thing. . . When I got home, I ran a couple of patches through with Eds Red and brought out more nasty gunk. But, it took only a couple of patches and everything came out clean. I've not had a chance to get back to the range since then for further testing.

Don't know if one of these things would help you, but you might give it a try. Everything can be put together with a trip to Home Depot. I think my total cost came to something like $5.00, but I had a 5 volt power supply that was in the shop.

 

[Walkalong]

For general gun cleaning Slip2000 gun cleaner works great. MPro-7 gun cleaner seems a bit better, but pricier. Both are non toxic with no smell. I like them both. Rinses clean with hot water, then blow it dry with an air hose. If you use good hot water there will not be much left to dry off.

For bores I like Butches Bore Shine for general cleaning and Bore-Techs Eliminator for copper. Eliminator has no ammonia, but works great on copper. I like TM Solution for stubborn carbon/powder fouling in bores, but Slip2000's Carbon Killer is the best thing on carbon out there wether it's a bore or a SS cylinder.

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

I've been using the various foaming bore cleaners and have been impressed with them. They seem to do a great job, especially if you let them sit awhile.

 

[cornman]

Break-Free CLP. I am not one to buy into needing a dozen cleaners lubes etc. One can on the shelf that does it all keeps life more fun. Why use shampoo when the bar soap works? Marketing...

 

[Hudge]

I've had the best luck with Butch's Bore shine, followed by Shooters Choice.

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

Break-Free CLP. I am not one to buy into needing a dozen cleaners lubes etc. One can on the shelf that does it all keeps life more fun. Why use shampoo when the bar soap works?

Military CLP (slightly different formula with more solvent) only removes about 80% of powder residue (according to the military's own tests) and does nothing with copper residue.

Personally, I cannot tell the difference in accuracy between a dirty barrel and a nice, clean barrel myself; but that may just say more about my shooting than it does about cleaning products.

 

[bogie]

Just keep in mind that the military is more concerned that a Private with an 80 IQ is able to stuff something through the barrel than it is with the thing actually being all that accurate...

Using one thing means that the Private won't get confused, and lube the barrel while solventing the bolt carrier and trigger group... It's not a great cleaner, but it's a decent lube for the bolt carrier and housing.