Best Concealed Pistol

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The best concealed pistol is the one no one else knows you have.

If it's small enough to hide, and big enough to get the job done, well.... there you have it.

It is really a personal decision, and will probably change as you get more familiar with pistols.

The easiest pistol to conceal in all situations, may not be the "best" pistol to conceal. Having said that if you are going to conceal the same pistol all the time you are probably going to end up with something small.

I recently bought a Ruger LCP, and it seems hard to beat for convenience. Not really the best pistol to conceal but it sure is easy to do so.
 
Thanks everyone. Rhoggman, what exactly do you mean by this statement? Am I confused? Or was this just stated . . . uhm. . . confusingly =)

I recently bought a Ruger LCP, and it seems hard to beat for convenience. Not really the best pistol to conceal but it sure is easy to do so.
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You should learn how to carry a more shootable gun.

Tiny little blowback "get off of me guns" are very very poor choices for self defense.

My wife carries a stainless steel .357 magnum snubby (loaded with .38 special). She is 5'10" and 125 lbs. If she can carry and conceal a gun of that size and mass, I don't understand why a full size man wouldn't just learn to deal with at least a "compact" gun that fits in a human hand and shoots well past 3'.

Tiny plastic pea shooters, that can't be shot well by most people, are aweful choices for self defense. I'd rather fight with open hands than any straight blowback gun. At those kind of ranges, a knife in trained hands is far more dangerous than any .32 or .380.

A gun is not a magic talisman that wards off of evil, you actually have to be able to use it effectively if you intend to defend yourself against violence. Be realistic about your shooting ability, and learn to carry a gun that you can actually shoot.
 
Tiny little blowback "get off of me guns" are very very poor choices for self defense.
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Thats not really true. When used appropriately, they certainly have there place. You can easily shoot well enough with them, and I can easily keep all 7 rounds out of my Seecamp COM at 10 yards.

While I agree a knife can be a devastating weapon in trained hands, I think you'll find more people will be more dangerous with a pistol than they would be with a knife.

I agree wholeheartedly about being realistic in your abilities and carry what you shoot best. The sorry thing is, most people are not realistic in what they can do, and think that shooting nice groups on a static bullseye target at 7 yards is a good indication of what they can do.
 
Thanks everyone. Rhoggman, what exactly do you mean by this statement? Am I confused? Or was this just stated . . . uhm. . . confusingly =)

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I recently bought a Ruger LCP, and it seems hard to beat for convenience. Not really the best pistol to conceal but it sure is easy to do so.
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You always want to have the biggest gun that you can carry, but having a gun that is convenient to carry is a good thing too.

I have a few options that I use. The LCP is one of those options, but not the best option.
 
Ok, I've changed my mind. No need to carry concealed, as I want TWO OF THESE by my sides in holsters with a cowboy hat. What the heck kind of gun is this. . . and where can I get one!!!!????? :what:

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While I agree a knife can be a devastating weapon in trained hands, I think you'll find more people will be more dangerous with a pistol than they would be with a knife.
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I think that most people look more dangerous with a pistol than with a knife, but due to their poor marksmanship and nonexistent ability to shoot their tiny little guns, lacking wear marks from actual practice, the attacker is probably pretty safe.

I'm not advocating knives for self defense, over handguns, but neither are very comforting without significant training and practice. Too many people think that they can buy a tiny plastic gun, fire 50 rounds through it, and once they put it in their pocket they're prepared.

A .32 wouldn't stop an angry dog. Too many people rely on the guns scariness to solve a confrontation.

I agree wholeheartedly about being realistic in your abilities and carry what you shoot best. The sorry thing is, most people are not realistic in what they can do, and think that shooting nice groups on a static bullseye target at 7 yards is a good indication of what they can do.
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I think you are dead on.

I advise some of my shooting buddies to take a real defensive shooting class with me and they say that they don't need one, because once a month they shoot empty beer cans in someones back yard and they're "good enough".
 
I think that most people look more dangerous with a pistol than with a knife, but due to their poor marksmanship and nonexistent ability to shoot their tiny little guns, lacking wear marks from actual practice, the attacker is probably pretty safe.
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I could make the same statement and just replace the mouse gun with a 2" revolver, and especially one of the lightweight guns loaded with some fancy hot ammo. I'm still amazed when I hear people recommend them to beginners as a good gun to start with. I personally think its a major mistake.

I would hope, that regardless what your carrying, you've spent enough time with it to become proficient with it, and at least try to get some realistic practice in with it. Same goes for your pocket knife and grappling skills too. This is all about the total package after all. You never know, your first big move might just be to step on someones toes. :)


A .32 wouldn't stop an angry dog.
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Dont bet the farm on it. .32's (as well as .25's and .22's) have been killing people graveyard dead on a regular basis, for a long time now.
 
Here's a video of an event that occured just this Monday in Pheonix, at a mall jewelry store.

Two thugs tried to pawn a watch, cased the place out, then returned ten minutes later to mace the owner in the face. He had a mouse gun in his pocket, and shot at 'em a bunch. No little 1/2" groups at ten yards with mace in the face!

The 62 year old owner is lucky to have survived this! He pays a firm to watch his video cameras and they immediately called the cops.

Notice that the guys run away SOME, when the mouse gun starts getting fired BUT THEY DON'T LEAVE! They don't appear to be in that kind of mortal fear of their lives.

Check out the AD when the owner starts pistol whipping one of the two guys he shot . . . and he forgot to take his finger off the trigger!

Again, both BGs went to the hospital with non-life threatening injuries from being shot . . . but the police showed up before they could take the old man's gun from him . . . which probably would have happened.

GET ENOUGH GUN!

In a small pocket gun, this means a J-frame revolver in .38 Special at the LEAST!

Here's the video:
http://videos.azstarnet.com/p/video?id=2984217


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I doubt you'd do any better with a full size gun and a face full of pepper spray. They certainly got to the far side of the store in a hurry once he got the gun out.

Its pretty hard to see just what it is he has. It doesnt look all that small.

I dont see that they ever had the upper hand on him. He seemed to have them at bay the whole time. I think he was foolish to get as close as he did and pistol whip the one, but hey, heat of the moment and all. Who can ever say just what they will do.

Personally, I want more than 5-7 shots (mouse guns and J frames are backups ;) ), and hes lucky it was just two people and the two together didnt make a nit wit. That could easily have been worse.
 
I could make the same statement and just replace the mouse gun with a 2" revolver, and especially one of the lightweight guns loaded with some fancy hot ammo. I'm still amazed when I hear people recommend them to beginners as a good gun to start with. I personally think its a major mistake.
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I recommended a stainless J-frame as the smallest possible gun to consider carrying. There is no reason for a grown man to carry anything smaller.

And yes, a beginner should use a full sized gun for thousands of rounds before ruining their marksmanship with the flinch that most develop shooting the "ccw guns".

Dont bet the farm on it. .32's (as well as .25's and .22's) have been killing people graveyard dead on a regular basis, for a long time now.
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Yeah, but people often decide to give up. Animals don't. One of the main reasons I carry a handgun is fear of dog attacks. Do a google search, there's about one a week in America. Large dogs are strong and fast and can inflict a lot of damage in a short period of time, I'd hate to be sitting their waiting for it to bleed out from a bunch of shallow tiny holes from bullets that can't destroy heavy bone.

In my opinion, 9mm or .38 special is the minimum. A Kahr K9 or S&W Model 60 can be carried and concealed by anyone, with minimal effort. They can also be held onto with a full grip, shot well with practice, and fire a potent and proven round that will destroy bones, crucial when an attacker won't decide to give up.

Here's the video:
http://videos.azstarnet.com/p/video?id=2984217
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How lame!

That guy fired a lot of rounds with seemingly no effect other than scaring the crooks. Either his marksmanship is aweful, or the rounds fired were. If those criminals had been more determined the storeowner would have been at their mercy.
 
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While the storekeeper's pistol may have been too small and maybe he wasn't all that good a shot, but you will note; that as soon as he materialized his pistol the attitudes of the criminals changed. They went from the hunters to the hunted.

BTW: when he showed the gun, he could have probably just demanded that the boys leave. It looks to me like they were heading for the door, and that the owner was not in jepardy of his life. If he had not shot, I think the boys would have left at a dead run.

So the shooting was probably unjustified. I wonder what happened later on?
 
Used to be these little tiny pistols were made in .22 LR and .22 mag. They were about half the size of the pistol shown. I don't think they still make the little tiny ones anymore.

The cops didn't like them because prisoners were getting them inside prisons/jails.

Guess where they were hiding them?






Pretty icky, eh.
 
Time out bad guy, I need to tie my shoe real quick ;)

IWB or OWB is a good way to go IMO.

Being a noobie a revolver is a good way to get started. I recomend a .38 that allows you to use +P ammo.

Best of luck to you in your search

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Peoplemayor,

I don't carry all the time but I think most of the folks around here do and that shapes many of the responses.

Everyone has there own reasons for carrying at a time of their choosing.

I'm partial to 1911's. Para-ordnance makes some nice DA's that might suit your purposes, but they are heavy.

I haven't shot it, but I have held a Kahr p3at. It's a 9mm and in my view would be a great gun for your purposes. It's light, accurate and in a caliber that would leave a mark. It's likely going to be my next handgun.

BCC
 
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