Best JHP bullet for a hot 10mm loading?

[KBintheSLC]

Just wondering what you folks think is a good choice of bullet for full-house 10mm defensive loads. I know that a lot of 10mm JHP's are just 40 S&W bullets loaded in 10mm cases. This can cause performance problems though due to the excess velocity of the 10mm causing severe expansion/deformation/fragmentation/jacket shedding/etc.

I have several loads on hand from DoubleTap to choose from... 165g Golden Saber, 180g Gold Dot, 200g Controlled Expansion.

The latter seems best suited for hunting. I wonder if the Saber will shed its jacket at a searing 1425 fps. Thoughts? Other recommendations?

Thanks.

 

[atblis]

Hornady XTP

 

[LeonCarr]

For a defensive load I would go with lighter bullets, either 135 grain or 155 grain, in the Sierra JHP or Speer Gold Dot. the XTPs are pretty stout as far as JHPs go and could overpenetrate on a bad guy's torso. Both of these bullet weights are loaded by Cor-Bon, Double Tap, and the 155s are loaded by the big three.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

 

[KBintheSLC]

Yeah... the Doubletap 200g Controlled Expansion is an XTP I believe. I may try a lighter grain for defense. I got the 200 grainers to use intermingled with their 200g FMJ-FP as a woods defense combo, but I bet one of those would punch right through even a very large human body.

 

[atblis]

155 gr XTP loaded nuklar. I'd be curious to see that in gelatin.

 

[Gryffydd]

I wonder if the Saber will shed its jacket at a searing 1425 fps

Unless you somehow get your hands on the bonded version, yes, yes it will. From what I've seen of gelatin tests the GS LOVES to shed its jacket--in 9mm and .45.

 

[71Commander]

155 Gold Dot. I used these in my S&W 610. I sold that gun, but use the bullets in my Kahr PM40. I have them topped out at 1285 fps chronoed.

 

[UnTainted]

I'd say a barnes x bullet at 140 or 155 grain, loaded to your preference.

or buy factory, double tap makes a 155 grain barnes x bullet. I would think it the best for the 10mm

 

[Dave T]

Like several others I would recommend the Hornady XTP. I believe it is the most stoutly constructed HP generally available to hand loaders.

Dave

 

[BlindJustice]

I have two loads for a .400 CorBon
155 gr. Speer Gold DOt JHP @ 1400 FPS
155 gr. Hornady XTP JHP @ 1350 FPS

Firing into wet magazines, the XTP penetrates
better - the Gold DOt seems a bit too fast for it's
construction, as it espands so much it doesn't
penetrate as much or just breaks up some times.

Randall

 

[oldrevolverguy]

My favorite CHL load for 10MM is the 175 grain Winchester Silvertip. The chronograph shows 1100 fps from my Glock 29.

 

[CZF]

Your Double Tap 165s should work fine. That's what I carry in my gun.I don't see a huge difference in a 155 or 165. In some cases, the 155s have even greater
velocity.

I also have DT 180 Gold Dots, but like the Hornady XTP , too!

I'm hoping to see a 10mm FTX load very soon.

 

[KBintheSLC]

Thanks for all of the recommendations folks. Sounds like there are some good choices out there. Thank the lord for DoubleTap... they know how to make a 10mm lover happy.

 

[IdahoLT1]

Heres some expansion results from Mike Mcnett (Double Tap) and his Double tap loads. I find it interesting that some of the 10mm bullets were penetrating deeper and expanding more than the .45ACP's.

http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/Official-10-ordinance-ge-t40940.html

 

[KBintheSLC]

Thanks for the link. Looks like the Sabers and the XTP's performed very well.

 

[oldpink]

I highly recommend 155 grain bullets, and I specifically use the outstanding Speer Gold Dot in this weight.
I kick these up to 1350 feet per second in my S&W 1006, and they are very accurate, and more importantly, they really hang onto their jackets, unlike conventionally jacketed bullets, as the Gold Dot is a plated bullet.
I've tested to see how well this bullet retains its jacket by shooting into water and dead tree limbs at these velocities, and I've been very impressed that the jacket stayed put with both.
Expansion is also very good.
I personally don't recommend 180 or higher weight bullets in 10mm for defensive purposes because of danger of overpenetration.
However, the heavier bullets, especially the Gold Dot version, should be excellent choices for hunting purposes.

 

[claiborne]

Hornady XTP 180 gr........worked well for my 10mm hand loads

 

[hardluk1]

Barnes dpx bullet

 

[ku4hx]

Defend against what? My backwoods load is generally a 175 grain cast boolit at about 1,150 fps ... Blue Dot gets me there. For two legged critters I need to defend against I have two loads.

My summer load is a 150 grain JHP at 1,450 fps. Any premium bullet will do just fine. AA #9 is my go to powder.

For winter, a 180 grain JHP at 1,290 fps. Blue Dot is the powder.

A light bullet load I've been experimenting with is a 135 grain JHP at 1,450 fps over my PACT2 screens using Blue Dot. But why go with 135 when 150 has essentially the same performance?

My G20 and Smith 1006 give slightly different MVs but all well within normal statistical variations. Accuracy is very good with all loads once tweaked for that. None showed any excess pressure signs.

 

[Hk Dan]

180 gr hp xtps. I use the in my .44 on deer and I have never seen an exit wound. They blow up like a grenade inside the deer--I have yet to see a deer make an additional foot print after being shot with this. Its like turning off a light switch.

 

[A-FIXER]

Also a vote for 180 gr XTP and your talking about a 10mm no need to go light heavy is not just my brother.

 

[bubbinator]

Sierra Sports Master 10mm bullets in weights from 135gr to 180gr are available. As a LEO Instructor with access to 40 S&W ammo, I don't reload it or carry reloads for SD purposes due to legal issues. I beleive the 10mm is a very good round, close to the 41 Mag and a very good SD round. When I load for hunting and for SD back in the day before all the legal crap-Sierra was my bullet. 38-110/125 JHC; 357-125/140/158 JHC; 9mm-115/124 JHP, 44 Mag-180/240 JHC, 45Acp-185 JHC. The Jacketed Hollow Cavity is called Sports Master now and works VERY well in tissue, proven in hunting harvests.

 

[tarosean]

hello 2009...

 

[Casefull]

I find it interesting that some of the 10mm bullets were penetrating deeper and expanding more than the .45ACP's.

I am curious why. 10mm is smaller diameter and usually 2 to 300fps faster so why would it not penetrate deeper?

 

[hgte2001]

155, 150, 175, and 180 gr bullets in that order show the best street stats. the 155 comes in at 90% and the 180 comes in at 86% for one stop end of conflict.

So 9 out of 10 times one shot stopped the action with the 155 gr and 8.6% out of ten for the 180 gr.

Plenty of choices.

I have never seen or read about a successful prosecution against hand loads, if someone has one send me the link.

Blue Dot and Hornady XTP create some outstanding accuracy with the 180s. I like 10.4 grains.

Blue Dot slight slower works great with lead FPs, I like 10.2 gr of blue dot. I use a glock after market barrel.

Stats from handload.com

http://www.handloads.com/misc/stoppingpower.asp?Caliber=1&Weight=All