Best Military Deer Hunting Rifle

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Here's the deal. I was looking for a hunting rifle that was also part of military history. In a moment of weakness...and finances, I bought a Mini 30 due to the cheap ammo. I didn't do my homework and found out the Mini 30's inaccuracy the hard way, even after using a red dot scope. Here's my question, given the option of a Lee-Enfield, M24 Mauser or a 1903 springfield, which has the best accuracy and reliability. Thanks.
 
The '03 is probably the most expensive way to go but probably the best way too. It gets my vote.
 
1903. It has been sporterized everyway known to man. I believe Teddy Roosevelt carried one at times. If its good enough for him then its probably good enough for the rest of us. Besides, I like the caliber the best out of the three...
 
What do you think I could get on trade-in for the Mini 30. Its had 200 rounds through it, a red dot sight, 2 spare 20 rnd clips and all factory rings and manuals.
 
Here's my question, given the option of a Lee-Enfield, M24 Mauser or a 1903 springfield, which has the best accuracy and reliability.

I wouldn't dismiss either of those three. My thoughts...

The Lee Enfield... they're a good tough old rifle. My Grandpa's old No.1 Mk3 has killed at least two deer that I know something about. I carry it hunting a good bit. It's not truly "sportered", but it was lightened up in the front end. Before anybody starts puking, it was done back in the early 1960's when that's what you did for a hunting rifle. Besides, the barrel wasn't cut back... just the stock and handguard in order to reduce weight.

The Mauser... I haven't hunted with one, but I've read and heard of plenty of folks hunting with one either in issue configuration or in a nicely sportered configuration. I won't comment on "bubba" jobs. What I will say is I tend to like the German K98k and some variants by Fabrique Nationale better than the Balkan models.

The '03 Springfield... Make mine an '03A3. An older gentleman I'm aquainted with has one he sporterized beautifully... that's his match rifle. But I don't rightly see where you asked about sporterized military rifles. Elmer Keith hunted big game with an as-issued '03 before he started tayloring his rifles and loads to suit himself and the hunting situations better. In my case, I have an '03A3, but for the time being at least, I intend to re-fit it to be right in issue configuration as all the parts are there but the stock's not right. I'd hunt with it as issued, FWIW.

All that said, while '03 is the most sportered US military rifle, the Lee Enfield is the most sportered Canadian military rifle. It just depends on where you're from.

The part about Teddy Roosevelt's 1903... his was chambered in the earlier .30-03 cartridge that preceded .30-06 as we know it today.
 
Don't discount the Enfield

I have two, one ratty Fazakerly and a Savage Enfield with a beautiful bore. The Savage has a great trigger, the bolt cycles so smoothly that I can cycle it with out breaking my cheek weld (I'm a lefty) and the .303 is plenty big for deer. I was shooting mine today with 1943 surplus ammo and at 100 yards from the sitting position I was able to keep all the rounds on a 50 yard small bore target. If you run across one of the Savage Enfields in good shape I think it would be worth it especially if you add one of the good micrometer sights. I have never fired a Springfield but the local VFW has some ceremonial 1903s that I have fondled and groped, they are really nice. And no matter where you go you can always find .30-06.

edit: I haven't used my Savage for hunting here in CA, the deer are the size of large dogs where I live. Next year I am going to be stationed in Michigan and my deer rifle is going to be the Savage.
 
I'd take a No4 enfield over a 1903 springfield anyday- much better sights for hunting. I would however, prefer a 03A3 over the enfield.
 
I've been looking at several sites and it looks like anywhere between $350-$500 trade-in for my Mini 30. More options, M1 Garand and M1 Carbine. What I'm looking for is a rifle I can shoot a deer, possibly elk or black bear, take it to a range and burn 50-100 rounds and then put it on the wall as a show piece. I know the bolt on the Enfield is exceptional. Likewise, you still see Mauser bolts in custom match rifles today. 1903's are hard to find and though Mosin-Nagen rounds are still in active military use in russia today, the tolerance on the russian bolt concerns me.
 
dispatch55126, You need to consult you state's hunting regulations. Some states have a magazine capacity limited to 5rds in semi-automatic rifles. Georgia is one. Your state may or may not be another.

More options, M1 Garand and M1 Carbine.

I personaly like the M1 Garand and I've heard a lot of good about the M1 Carbine as my Grandpa had one during WW2 and he always spoke highly of it. (Both my grandfathers are/were WW2 vets. One had the Garand and the other had the Carbine depending on their respective MOS.)

What I'm looking for is a rifle I can shoot a deer, possibly elk or black bear, take it to a range and burn 50-100 rounds and then put it on the wall as a show piece.

The Garand, being .30-06, will do the job. The Carbine... while it'll do for these little deer around my area, I wouldn't bet on it as a hunting round at longer ranges because the further you shoot it, the less likely a humane kill will be. Be either one is fun at the range by most accounts of fans and my own experience with my Garand. I'm not real big on thinking in terms of show pieces I don't also shoot. I think I'd hang it on the wall and keep it ready to go.

I know the bolt on the Enfield is exceptional. Likewise, you still see Mauser bolts in custom match rifles today. 1903's are hard to find and though Mosin-Nagen rounds are still in active military use in russia today, the tolerance on the russian bolt concerns me.

Actually, 1903's aren't all that hard to find. I was just on Gunbroker a few minutes ago and they're on there. You just have to be careful which serial# ranges you get into because they say low#'s aren't safe to fire.

Mosin-Nagant... I never have cared for those. They're cheap, sure, but they're also ugly and most all MN owners I hear from say they're painful in the recoil department.
 
Thanks for the input. I've been doing some looking around and picked up a MN 91/30. It still had cosmoline in several parts and has matching numbers. It fires great, I like the sights better that either the M1 Carbine or MK4 and I think the recoil is less that my Model 1894.
 
its not on your list, but i'll suggest the swiss K-31. plenty accurate, plenty powerful, and non-destructive scope mounts available. whats not to love? ammo is a bit expensive, but if this is a hunting-only rig, ammo price is about on par with commerical hunting ammo for the calibers for the guns you listed.
 
Dispatch;

From that last post, sounds like its all history now, but: I'da taken a good long hard look at anything I coulda found in 6.5X55 Swede, though the 03 Springfield would be my choice of what you did list.

900F
 
I couldn't find a 03A3 for comparison, but I found a store that had the Mosin Nagant, a M1 Carbine, Lee Enfield and comerorative M1 Garand. For the feel, I liked the Garand the best, but for the PRICE and feel, the MS felt the most comfortable. When I got back to the farm I put a few rounds through it and its kick was comperable to my Hawkens 50 Cal. muzzleloader.
 
Nobody mentioned the 1917 Enfield in .30-06? It's got a good receiver aperture sight if you're not planning on scoping the rifle. The 98 Mauser is the gold standard in sporterized military rifles, but I'd take the 1917 over it if you don't plan on alterations. Of course, everything is made for the 98 Mauser.

I built a cheap hunting rifle out of a Spanish Mauser 93. It was in 7x57, a very good caliber, but the rapid rifling rate would only really work well with 175 grain round nose. I tried 140s and 150s in it and they didn't shoot well at all. It was about a 2moa gun with 175 grain Hornady round nose. I forget what powder I used, in my notes somewhere. I'm thinking IMR4350, but don't remember for sure. It made for a decent short range (250yds or less) knock around gun and I didn't have much money in it. The rifle cost me $60, I think. It was a short, handy rifle, too, though a bit heavy like any mil surp.

There is a "Siamese Mauser" that has a large enough head size to its original chambering (can't remember the chambering) that they are often rebarreled for .45-70 and are strong, can be loaded really hot. A guy tried to sell me one, once, in .45-70, but he wanted $500 for it and I didn't need it $500 worth of need. Besides, I don't know if the thing shot well and I'm not going to spend that kind of cash on any sporterized mil surp unless I shoot it. I'm sure he had a lot of money in it considering the cost of a barrel and custom building the thing, though. If we had T. Rex hunting in Texas, I might have bought it, LOL!
 
I picked this Mosin Nagant up for $120. It has matching bolt and barrel numbers. The stock is also in excellant condition. It also came with the spike bayonet, dog collar sling with russian stamps on it, ammo pouch, tool kit and oil can. Everything still had cosmoline on it and after my few test shots I've spent the rest of the day cleaning it out. I keep taking breaks and logging onto this site.
 
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