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Best Non-Lethal Weapons
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Pax Jordana
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au contraire, mon frere (yes, these children are speaking french, and no they're not french, they're american!)
Cars are the most lethal weapon in the world. They're tops on most people's lists of 'things that kill people'.
theotherwaldo
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I must argue with the last posting. Stupidity is the most lethal thing on earth, followed by laziness and apathy.
Anyway, my favorite casual carry item is a well-worn putter, usually held Bob Hope style. Which end you use depends on how serious you are. Also makes a good blocking device.
Anyway, my favorite casual carry item is a well-worn putter, usually held Bob Hope style. Which end you use depends on how serious you are. Also makes a good blocking device.
alaskanativeson
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I went ahead and spend the money on one of these from Real-Self-Defense and while it's not a bad thing I'd say your money is better spent elsewhere.
Pontif
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Have to agree with sm. If you can get the hell out of Dodge, run baby run. What I teach my students, anyhow.
If not able to flee, pepper spray with a stout OTN rating (just learned about "OTN").
Although spray is not effective 100% of the time, what one carries is a trade off between convenience, practicality, effectivenss and ease of deployment. Foam based spray seems to be the best bang for the buck (although I really do like the fire extinguisher type of powder for disuading several attackers quickly - if that situation even arises).
If not able to flee, pepper spray with a stout OTN rating (just learned about "OTN").
Although spray is not effective 100% of the time, what one carries is a trade off between convenience, practicality, effectivenss and ease of deployment. Foam based spray seems to be the best bang for the buck (although I really do like the fire extinguisher type of powder for disuading several attackers quickly - if that situation even arises).
Dksimon
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First off I would like to say that this is a great thread and an does an exellent job pointing out my deficiencies in this department. Also, I honestly laughed outloud when I read about the Armo piercing back pick. I love THR
I've not posted here for a long time, but I wandered in and found this interesting thread. My view on a decent less lethal tool would be a combination of a sturdy walking stick and the Fairbairn & Sykes stick drill - you won't need much else and it only takes a short while to learn. It is included in one of McCann's DVD's at the beginning, before he becomes more martial arty.
The drill also works well with a long gun or baton, but is exellent for a simple stick.
Coops
The drill also works well with a long gun or baton, but is exellent for a simple stick.
Coops
Stainz
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Flatulance. Works for me!
Okay, okay, so I eat a lot of Tex/Mex... Seriously, I find a decent walking stick to be reassuring. Not as much as the 642 in my pocket, of course.
Stainz
Okay, okay, so I eat a lot of Tex/Mex... Seriously, I find a decent walking stick to be reassuring. Not as much as the 642 in my pocket, of course.
Stainz
Carl Levitian
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All those senior citizens carrying a two foot stick on thier evening walks can't be wrong. Man's oldest weapon; the blunt club, is still a very good tool to have. A stout walking stick is already in hand, can go onto airplanes, into court houses, and government buildings.
psyprofessor
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Here are some non-lethal unconventional & stealthy self-defense "tools"...
1. Carry a styrofoam cup ....half full of sand...and place a lid. Carry this cup with you when you feel a need for an "escape" distractor.
When suddenly approach by an attacker, toss the sand in his face. It should buy you a couple of seconds to make your next tactical move...such as reaching for your concealed weapon...or allowing you to run away.
2. Wear soccer shin guards/pads. Glue a thin metal rod (or heavy plastic) on top of the shin guards. The thin metal rod is about the thickness of a pencil and should be about 10 inches long. It is glued on top of the shin guard, on top of the shin bone area.
When attacked, execute a low roundhouse kick to the attacker's leg. Attack his knee joint with your shins. The shin guards will protect your shins. The metal rod will focus your force into a small area..thereby increasing its effect. It will be like being armed with two baseball bats.
1. Carry a styrofoam cup ....half full of sand...and place a lid. Carry this cup with you when you feel a need for an "escape" distractor.
When suddenly approach by an attacker, toss the sand in his face. It should buy you a couple of seconds to make your next tactical move...such as reaching for your concealed weapon...or allowing you to run away.
2. Wear soccer shin guards/pads. Glue a thin metal rod (or heavy plastic) on top of the shin guards. The thin metal rod is about the thickness of a pencil and should be about 10 inches long. It is glued on top of the shin guard, on top of the shin bone area.
When attacked, execute a low roundhouse kick to the attacker's leg. Attack his knee joint with your shins. The shin guards will protect your shins. The metal rod will focus your force into a small area..thereby increasing its effect. It will be like being armed with two baseball bats.
Kubaton
Try this kubaton !!!! larger diameter, shorter in length, stronger then plastic... and cheaper>>>
http://cgi.ebay.com/Kubaton_W0QQite...oryZ3204QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
if this link does not work, e-mail for photo and price. And yes they are made in th USA.
Try this kubaton !!!! larger diameter, shorter in length, stronger then plastic... and cheaper>>>
http://cgi.ebay.com/Kubaton_W0QQite...oryZ3204QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
if this link does not work, e-mail for photo and price. And yes they are made in th USA.
dogma512
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Looks like an ASP defender w/o the OC.
Fred Fuller
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That's kinda harsh, ray_ray. Other folks who make defensive items offer them for sale here.
Granted, some would prefer that a new member establish themselves as a contributor and a known quantity first, but simply calling attention to the item is not over the top IMHO.
I'd prefer the first response to a new member whose conduct is not totally outrageous be "Welcome aboard..." but that's just me.
Glad to have you here, LouisFio. Drop by the Intro thread in General and tell us a bit about yourself... http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=233018 .
lpl
ETA: OBTW, folks- that guardrail nut on a loop of paracord thing? It's known as a "slung shot," and a good many states have laws specifically against carrying such things. Effective? Yep, just as described, depressed skull fractures are nothing to sneeze at. And that's why they are illegal in so many places. Check your local and state statutes before you whip one up and drop it in your 'other pocket.'
Granted, some would prefer that a new member establish themselves as a contributor and a known quantity first, but simply calling attention to the item is not over the top IMHO.
I'd prefer the first response to a new member whose conduct is not totally outrageous be "Welcome aboard..." but that's just me.
Glad to have you here, LouisFio. Drop by the Intro thread in General and tell us a bit about yourself... http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=233018 .
lpl
ETA: OBTW, folks- that guardrail nut on a loop of paracord thing? It's known as a "slung shot," and a good many states have laws specifically against carrying such things. Effective? Yep, just as described, depressed skull fractures are nothing to sneeze at. And that's why they are illegal in so many places. Check your local and state statutes before you whip one up and drop it in your 'other pocket.'
KBintheSLC
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My two favorite non-firearm, non-explosive weapons are a long fixed-blade knife, and a cane.
I like the cane for secured/sensitive areas as it does not spook anyone, yet it can be rapidly deployed as a striking tool, a grappling hook, or a defensive blocking device. Love the cane.
I like the cane for secured/sensitive areas as it does not spook anyone, yet it can be rapidly deployed as a striking tool, a grappling hook, or a defensive blocking device. Love the cane.
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