Best personal defense house gun you've owned

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A pair of .40 Glocks. One in each hand. My house always has enough ambient light for me to shoot with success......the stranger might have some difficulty, but I'm at home.

Simple, affordable, maneuverable, reliable, effective.

If one should misfire or jam I can continue fire with the other.

If one should get knocked out of my hand I can continue fire with the other.

No disrespect for the long guns, but they are hard to maneuver in close quarters and around corners and we're talking about close quarters combat and the less there is for an attacker to grab, the better.

I can understand the short carbine theories, but you can't realistically have one in each hand, can you? No, you can't.

I have long guns for intermediate and long-range engagements, but for in-home......it's the Double-Glock method for me.
 
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No, if you have intruders in your home in the dark of night......you ARE at close quarters combat.

Period.

So being prepared for it is wise.
 
Since I've never been in a home defense situation, I'm not really qualified to decide which is best. Should I be placed in that unfortunate situation, I'm sure that if my SAIGA 20 gauge loaded with #2 shot does not stop the attacker it should make him wonder if might have gotten the wrong house before the ten round magazine is empty.
 
Tell me about it when the bad guy grabs the barrel of your carbine and shoves it up your......oh my......I have to recalibrate my words.

;)
 
I'm certainly not going to get into a back and forth about which home defense weapon is the best. The one I have chose to use for a variety of reasons is pictured below.
 

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Again, if they get that close you're doing it wrong.

But who am I to argue with El Mariachi?
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Again, if you have intruders in your home in the night, they are already that close.

Maybe you're banking on slow, polite intruders who are respectful of your space, but you may get some who are fast and impolite. Bad things may happen very fast.

But you haven't really explained your position at all.

If your chosen method has advantages over mine, go ahead and state them.

That's discussion.

If you're just going to call me names, it's a waste of time.
 
I also meant to say that with the Kel-Tec carbine at my shoulder the overall length from the tip of the weapon to my body is actually shorter that with a pistol/revolver extended in my arms in the aiming position. The Kel-Tec carbine is a little shorter than my extended arm. Still, to each their own. Any gun is better than nothing. :)
 
I'm certainly not going to get into a back and forth about which home defense weapon is the best. The one I have chose to use for a variety of reasons is pictured below.
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I see a picture of a gun that shoots backwards?

So.....you give it to the perp and let him shoot himself?

That does put you in a better legal position.

:D
 
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... Maybe you're banking on slow, polite intruders who are respectful of your space, but you may get some who are fast and impolite. Bad things may happen very fast.

But you haven't really explained your position at all...
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No, I am banking on the fact that my property and home were chosen with defesibility in mind, then enhanced further toward that end, then our home defense plans designed around that.

Without going into exhausting detail, no routine "intruder" is getting up to my house, let alone inside it, quickly and unannounced. Ain't happening.

Short of a well-equipped dynamic entry team determined to surprise me en mass, I am not concerned about anyone getting close enough, fast enough, to try to take anything out of my hands without getting ventilated, repeatedly, first. (And, FWIW, there are three identically-equipped HD handguns on the interior wall of that bedside wall-safe... but they are there only to back-up my carbine [and/or my wife's shotgun] and I really don't anticipate threir use. But they are there JIC.)

You believe that a handgun in each hand is your best HD choice (which immediately evoked the image of Banderas/El Mariachi in my mind, I meant nothing personal!). I refrained from criticizing your choice, not knowing anything at all about your living circumstances and level of training/experience. Since you did not similarly refrain, I have now explained my HD plans and preps somewhat. Trust me when I tell you that I have had sufficient training and experience to determine that a suppressed, lit AR suits my own HD needs best. (Doesn't mean in any way that it would practical, or even appropriate (let alone "best"), for you or anyone else, nor did I mean to imply such in any way.)

'Kay? :)
 
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I also meant to say that with the Kel-Tec carbine at my shoulder the overall length from the tip of the weapon to my body is actually shorter that with a pistol/revolver extended in my arms in the aiming position...
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Most people who've ever taken a defensive carbine course have had this demonstrated to them.

"Old_Painless" who does the Box O' Truth has a great overhead picture of him and Clint Smith (IIRC) showing the comparative lengths/positions, but I can't put my hands on it right now.
 
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In an in-home home defense situation you don't extend your pistol at arm's length unless you're asking for it to be grabbed.

A very short carbine is an improvement over some weapons that have been mentioned, but it is still nowhere near as maneuverable as a pistol. It simply cannot be pulled back from a grab like a pistol can. It simply cannot be turned around a corner anywhere near as easily as a pistol.

Two pistols give you an advantage that cannot be denied. If a big guy grabs your carbine and turns it to the side and rides you to the floor......you are most likely a DOA.

If a big guy manages to grab one of your pistols, rides you to the floor, you just put the other one to his head, blow his brains out and the fight is over. You are also in a position to take out his pals at that point, should they be gathering in the hallway behind him.

There is no scenario where a pistol in each hand doesn't offer huge tactical advantages for in-home defense. I can't say the same for the single carbine, unfortunately.
 
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t165-

Remember the old plastic "Polish Target Pistol" that was once sold at joke shops?:D

I know what the Kel-Tec is, but still...:)
 
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... There is no scenario where a pistol in each hand doesn't offer huge tactical advantages for in-home defense. I can't say the same for the single carbine, unfortunately.
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I guess that's why all the professional instructors are teaching the pistol-in-each-hand technique, while none advocate a defensive carbine for HD. :rolleyes:

I'm through arguing this with you here, no point -- be well.
 
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It seems to me that the best home defense weapon for most people is the one with which they are the most familiar, most qualified, and therefore with which they are the most confident. Like I posted earlier, I own pistols, AR carbines, AR target rifles, a shotgun, and some accurized bolt rifles. The shotgun and the carbines are potentially superior HD weapons to any of my pistols. But if I am most confident with the pistols, then which is the better HD weapon for me, in MY house — not yours, or his, or someone else's?

I love my carbines, and I can even shoot them respectably well.... ....from a bench! But I've never had any military or law enforcement training with a long gun, and I'm 56, out of shape, and seriously gimpy (back surgery, bad knee, etc.). The truth is that I will probably never spend the money to get trained up all tactical like, and most old dudes like me aren't going to either. I live in suburbia in a neighborhood of only average size lots, so neighboring houses are fairly close by. And while my wife has a carry permit and can shoot a pistol acceptably well, she's not a rifle shooter at all. Consequently, layers of defense are limited to my doors and windows, an alarm system, an aging blind and deaf dog, and whatever firearm I am most confident with in an actual situation. That happens to be my pistols - which is why one of those is on the dresser, instead of a carbine or shotgun.

That said, if I lived on a large piece of property where layered defense made practical sense and I had some maneuvering room, I would definitely prefer a stand-off weapon like a carbine or shotgun. It just doesn't seem to work for me in my personal situation.
 
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Logos I would never dream of questioning anyone's training or experience, and as this is still a free country (for now) You are free to use any legal weapon you'd like to defend your own home.
I won't go into details, but I have had a lot of training and experience where CQB is concerned.
I would just like to bring one thing to your attention. I have heard of many reasons why a handgun is better for HD than a long gun/carbine and the other way around as well.
Consider this: You wake up in the middle of the night, you're disoriented and half asleep. You mentioned that your home is fairly well lit at night so no need for a light. That's all good and well but what if you trip and fall down and have to catch yourself. Are you going to catch yourself with a loaded weapon pointed at your face? There are thousands more examples that I could come up with where not having a free hand would be a disaster.
I say this from experience. I've seen some of the best trained men in the world trip and fall in an urban combat setting.
Same goes for all the mall ninjas who have a strap on the front grip of their HD shotguns. Anyone who's ever been in one of these situations will tell you that having a free hand is invaluable.
If you wanna come out blazing with a couple of glocks I wish you all the best, but its just silly.
(sorry for the long post)
 
Logos, ArmedBear...this is a liberals home defense weapon! :)




And if there are any Liberals reading this thread this is only a bit of humor!
 

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I always have a handgun on me, so it all depends if it is the Taurus 85SSUL .38 SPL +P and/or the Smith & Wesson M13 loaded with 125 grain .357 Magnums.

The handguns allow me to blunt any initial home invasion and get to the long guns - Remington 870 and/or .45 Colt levergun.

ECS
 
what if you trip and fall down
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That's the best you can do?

I might fall down? Gunfighting 101 says you land on your side and the side of your forearm and elbow on that side. You roll with it with the gun pointed toward the threat. You're still way ahead of the guy with one gun.

Please try to get serious. I MIGHT fall down carrying a carbine, too.

I MIGHT hyperventilate or have a heart attack, too.

If you're in a real fight in your own home in the middle of the night, two Glock .40s are more than twice as good as one carbine.

If you have any SERIOUS responses, I'd be happy to hear them.
 
IF they get into my bedroom before I am awake/alert I have lost. There are alarms, dogs, multiple doors/stairs/bedroom door. If every door was unlocked and a person RAN from first alarm point then maybe they could make it to bedroom before I am awake...
The AR is to hold the top of stairs for half hr till Police show up.
 
My Mossberg 500 12 gauge... Its black and intimidating looking....Plus everyone knows what the action sounds like ......Even criminals.....Odds are you wont even have to use it ......Once you rack a round in the chamber the bad guy knows whats coming.......Also you dont have to worry about over penetration...
 
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