Best place to get 7.7 Jap brass and cheap .303 bullets? I sent a check to a guy who had 100 rounds of prvi 7.7 Japanese, something not easy to come by only be told there is none left. Wonderful. Most places on the internet want about 60c a case unless you buy a ton. I only want about 100 but I'd settle for 50 right now. I had to settle for beat up bag of 29 cases, mostly conversion cases and that wasn't cheap as it is. Not to mention everytime I find .312 bullets they are either A: meant for .32 ACP or similar 32 caliber pistols and reolvers, or B: very expensive and usually out of stock. So. Anyone know where to get deals? Or perhaps better deals than me? Cheapest box I've found of LOADED 7.7 Japanese has been $27+ shipping, as well. Seems that FMJ 7.7 has gone the way of the do-do to boot.
Best place to get 7.7 Jap brass and cheap .303 bullets?
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RoyRogers
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Bullseye Shooting Supplies in Woonsocket, RI has been a manufacturer of 7.7 Japanese cartridges, among others, contact info here, http://www.bullseyeshootingsupplies.com/contactus/. It's not listed on their Web site at the moment (I hope not discontinued) but you can ask. Nice folks. It's 174 grain jacketed soft point, typically has been priced around $2/round, not cheap, but nice quality and the brass is substantial, I would think eminently reloadable. Perhaps they'd sell just brass, or could point you to their source.
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Grafs has 7.7x58 brass in stock at $.58 per. http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/12653
I've bought a couple hundred from them, it's Privi Partizan brass.
They also have the bullets at .27 to as low as .24 depending on qty purchased. I've also bought those.
I've bought a couple hundred from them, it's Privi Partizan brass.
They also have the bullets at .27 to as low as .24 depending on qty purchased. I've also bought those.
Since 7.7x58 cases are easily made from .30-'06, there should be no problem for anyone with a press of reasonable power and a case trimmer.
Some folks will tell us that the 7.7 chamber is too big and the .30-'06 case will bulge and blow out, etc. Nonsense. COTW shows the .30-'06 base at .470", the 7.7 at .472", within the .30 tolerances.
Jim
Some folks will tell us that the 7.7 chamber is too big and the .30-'06 case will bulge and blow out, etc. Nonsense. COTW shows the .30-'06 base at .470", the 7.7 at .472", within the .30 tolerances.
Jim
So it's not necessary to fire-form first? Fire-forming seems a bit tedious and long a process anyways
I use Grafs and Sons which has the Prvi Brass and loaded ammunition for both the 7.7 and 6.5 Japanese. Also see Buffalo Arms who also carry it from time to time.
http://www.buffaloarms.com/
Here is a link to forming .30-06 brass into 7.7 Japanese using a case forming die with pix of each step. Never done it though.
http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=36845
http://www.buffaloarms.com/
Here is a link to forming .30-06 brass into 7.7 Japanese using a case forming die with pix of each step. Never done it though.
http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=36845
TimSr
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I had an old Arisaka 7.7 rechambered for 30-06 with original barrel. It was no bench match gun, but was well within acceptable limits for a 200 yard or less deer gun.
Have you ever tried loading .308 bullets?
Have you ever tried loading .308 bullets?
TRX
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I got mine from Graf's. I had a supply of .312 bullets from loading 7.65 Mauser and .303 British, but I'm about out.
C4HD used to make "bump-up dies" to squeeze .308 bullets up to .312. I contacted them a few years ago about getting a die set, but they weren't taking any special orders at the time, as they were running flat-out trying to fill orders for catalog items. I need to get back hold of them before the election-year rush ramps up much higher... Corbin also makes bump-up dies, but they're outside my price range.
A few people have tried paper-patching jacketed .308 bullets. The reports have varied; I expect the exact bore size, sharpness of the rifling, and jacket hardness/thickness would have a lot to do with it. But it's easy and cheap to experiment with if you get the urge.
C4HD used to make "bump-up dies" to squeeze .308 bullets up to .312. I contacted them a few years ago about getting a die set, but they weren't taking any special orders at the time, as they were running flat-out trying to fill orders for catalog items. I need to get back hold of them before the election-year rush ramps up much higher... Corbin also makes bump-up dies, but they're outside my price range.
A few people have tried paper-patching jacketed .308 bullets. The reports have varied; I expect the exact bore size, sharpness of the rifling, and jacket hardness/thickness would have a lot to do with it. But it's easy and cheap to experiment with if you get the urge.
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I've also made them from 8x57 and 7x57 brass. Simply run them through 7.7 die, and trim if necessary. Much easier than cutting '06 down. But, I now have a Harbor Freight 2" chop saw. Wonderful for making .300BLK from tired .223.
However, my last 7.7 project went awry. Bought 100 PPU cases, 100 150grn .312" bullets for an acquaintances Arisaka. First shot, obvious it had been rechambered to 7.7/06!
Oh well, 7.7 shot fine. So did/does .30/06! Barrel mic's .310" and shoots to sights and as well as owner can shoot it. He's happy as he got gun for $150. (Heavily bubba'd!)
However, my last 7.7 project went awry. Bought 100 PPU cases, 100 150grn .312" bullets for an acquaintances Arisaka. First shot, obvious it had been rechambered to 7.7/06!
Oh well, 7.7 shot fine. So did/does .30/06! Barrel mic's .310" and shoots to sights and as well as owner can shoot it. He's happy as he got gun for $150. (Heavily bubba'd!)
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