Best tactical scope for the money?

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I'm in the market for a tactical scope for my Remington 7400 30-06.
(Anyone think this is a strange idea? a tactical scope on a hunting rifle?? should I even bother? I've heard the 7400 can shoot 2MOA at best.)
For anyone that has ever had to shop around for such a thing they know might know how difficult it is to find a scope that matches your criteria. I've compared several dozen scopes and I have come up with a couple few top prospects, the ATN 6-18x65 http://www.riflescopes.com/products/618X65LU/atn_6-18x65_professional_30mm_riflescope.htm,

the Leupold 4.5-14x50 Mark 4 LR/T http://www.riflescopes.com/products/LEU54660/leupold_4.5-14x50_mark_4_lr_t_30mm_riflescope.htm,

and the IOR 4-14x50 Tactical with MP8 recticle http://www.riflescopes.com/products/IOR414X50TILLMP8/ior_4-14x50_tactical_30mm_rifle_scope.htm. The ATN is the least expensive of the three
but I don't know how good these scopes are.
I want to spend under $1000, and I would prefer an illuminated recticle, a magnification of at least 12x, a 30mm tube, and target turrets. What are your thoughts and opinions on these tactical scopes?
 
You won't be dissapointed with the Leupold. I've got a 4.5X14 Tactical that is very good.

I have heard a lot of good things about IOR although I've never owned one.

I've never, ever, heard good things about ATN. I was tempted to get a small lower powered ATN for a AR15, but some research made me decide against it.
 
What on earth is a "tactical scope"?
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It's a scope made for a "tactical rifle" :neener:

It's marketing nonsence that caught on. Generally has features such as a range finding reticle, a mil dot for example, and/or target turrets, usually with a dull appearance. Should be built tough.
 
Wardog,

I know ;)

But my question was really leading toward whether these very pricey, bulky and heavy "tactical" scopes with complex reticles were any better for most general combative purposes than the average quality 3X, 4X or 6X hunting scope.

Certainly magnifications of 10X and up would be advantageous for extremely long ranges; but unless one is shooting something close to one MOA or less, shooting further than more moderate ranges is going to become more harassing fire than anything else. So spending alot of money, and encumbering a handy rifle with a big, heavy variable makes little sense to me.

It seems to me that a solid 3X, 4X or 6X hunting scope with a standard "duplex" reticle would be a better "tactical" choice for a two MOA rifle.

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Wardog,

I know

But my question was really leading toward whether these very pricey, bulky and heavy "tactical" scopes with complex reticles were any better for most general combative purposes than the average quality 3X, 4X or 6X hunting scope.

Certainly magnifications of 10X and up would be advantageous for extremely long ranges; but unless one is shooting something close to one MOA or less, shooting further than the more moderately ranges is going to become more harassing fire than anything else. So spending alot of money, and encumbering a handy rifle with a big, heavy variable makes little sense to me.

It seems to me that a solid 3X, 4X or 6X hunting scope with a standard "duplex" reticle would be a better "tactical" choice for a two MOA rifle.
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I agree! Although I think a decent mil dot reticle for ranging/holdover wouldn't be a bad idea. Duplex is good too though.
 
For the money:

IMO: Weaver Tactical scopes are the best for the money IMO. They feature a mil-dot reticle with the mildots in the first focal plane. This means that you can EASILY use the mildots at any magnification. This is a feature that Leopold doesn't offer. Until recently you could buy a Leopold from Premier Reticle that was modified by Premier Reticle to have the mildots in the first focal plane, but Premier is now appearently out of business (they have been around forever). http://www.weaveroptics.com/pg5/pg5.html
 
The problem with FFP scopes is that the reticle will expand as you increase the power. Some people can deal with that, others can't. I prefer SFP scopes myself though.
 
First of all..Sorry to highjack your thread:uhoh:
I'm also hunting for tactical scope(In a budget way..)..A friend is offering me a muellers scope 4-16x50 illuminated..Looks like this:
http://www.snipercentral.com/muellertac.htm
Is this any good ??

Also a 8.5 -25x50 ..Is this too much magnification? Is 50 mm objective too big to be what you call tactical ??:)

Any input is very much appreciated..
 
I'm in the market for a tactical scope for my Remington 7400 30-06.
(Anyone think this is a strange idea? a tactical scope on a hunting rifle?? should I even bother? I've heard the 7400 can shoot 2MOA at best.)
For anyone that has ever had to shop around for such a thing they know might know how difficult it is to find a scope that matches your criteria. I've compared several dozen scopes and I have come up with a couple few top prospects, the ATN 6-18x65 http://www.riflescopes.com/products/...riflescope.htm,

the Leupold 4.5-14x50 Mark 4 LR/T http://www.riflescopes.com/products/...riflescope.htm,

and the IOR 4-14x50 Tactical with MP8 recticle http://www.riflescopes.com/products/...ifle_scope.htm. The ATN is the least expensive of the three
but I don't know how good these scopes are.
I want to spend under $1000, and I would prefer an illuminated recticle, a magnification of at least 12x, a 30mm tube, and target turrets. What are your thoughts and opinions on these tactical scopes?
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Impala,

Yes, indeed, it is a strange idea to put a quality tactical scope on your Jam-o-matic. Most guys like to have an accurate rifle as the basis for installing a good scope on. That being said, stay -- no, run away from a ATN scope. You can never go wrong with a Leupold scope, and IOR has it's followers as well, although it's service record is nowhere near as good. I think you should seriously rethink what you intend to do. I good source of information regarding tactical rifles is http://www.snipershide.com. Good luck.

Don
 
Kind of reviving an old topic.

Thanks for all the info, I'll remember to stay away from the ATN's
I'm pretty much sure of which scope I want now. hoping to get some opinions on this one. http://valdada.com/vn/ior/03n
Can anybody say as to how good of a scope IOR makes?
I like this fixed power model, I don't really need magnification more than 10x and I like the MP8 reticle. I've seen that model on the midway site for $100 less so I'll probably get it from there.

I'm really set on this "accurization" project, but it will probably be a while before I buy the scope, I plan to send my 7400 to ASI to have a heavy barrel and muzzle brake installed as well as some other custom work done to it to make it less of a "jam-o-matic"

http://accuracysystemsinc.com/cust_remington_7400.html they claim they can shoot 3 round groups under 1/2 MOA with factory ammo, I'm not sure how much of that I should believe, but it's a nice thought.
 
IOR scopes work great.
If you get a fixed power scope you'll end up wishing you chose a variable power scope unless you only stick to tactical type schools and shooting.

I have IOR scopes and never had any problems. Glass is very clear.

;)
 
If its an IOR you're after you should check with Scott/Libery Optics first. He has a forum over at snipersparadise.com
 
I don't really need variable power, fixed can work just as well for most medium-long range applications.
99% of the shooting I do is at the range at fixed distances, so I don't really do any shooting under 100m. Maybe I will eventually end up needing a variable power, but I doubt it.
I'll have to check out that liberty optics site before I do any final purchasing decisions
 
http://accuracysystemsinc.com/cust_remington_7400.html they claim they can shoot 3 round groups under 1/2 MOA with factory ammo, I'm not sure how much of that I should believe, but it's a nice thought.
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Impala,

I'd get that guarantee in writing, along with what they will do when you find you can't shoot .5MOA with the rifle yourself. That being said, the Remington 7400 is not the platform to build an accurate semi-auto on. For that purpose, you would be better served building on an AR10 platform.

Don
 
Yeah, that's what I originally wanted to do, I was either going to buy a Springfield M14 or an AR-10, but I didn't have the money for either so I bought a 7400 instead, now everybody tells me it's not such a good gun.
I should have waited or done more research...
I like the AR-10 .308, nice looking gun, really expensive though..
 
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