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best trunk gun?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by jakemccoy, Jan 4, 2008.

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  1. jakemccoy

    jakemccoy Member

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    Given all the maniac shooters nowadays, I'm thinking the best trunk gun is a rifle or something that can reach out to 100 yards or more. Pull over, pop the trunk, engage the target and save some lives. What do you guys think?

    EDIT: Like all the recent maniac shooter cases, I was imagining a scenario where you are within the maniac's danger zone (for example, maniac shooter picking off people in a mall parking lot). As in those cases, "letting the cops handle it" may not be an option, unless you're talking about the paperwork.
     
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  2. CZ 42

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    SKS. Mine is a M44 though, picked it up at a garage sale. If I could buy guns, first thing would be an SKS anyway because their price is climbing- still only $150 though. With a $36 scope from J&G, you could probably hit out to 200 yards pretty well.
     
  3. Firespecialist

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    Let the cops take care of it. I think doing something like that might come back and bite you in the a$$, unfortunately...
     
  4. 19-3Ben

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    I find it tough to think of engaging targets at 100yards. A lot of room for collateral damage there.
    I cant have a trunk gun here in CT because we aren't allowed to leave a firearm in a vehicle. If I could though, it would be a Mosin Nagant carbine like an M44 or M38.
     
  5. jrfoxx

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    Agreed.Defending yourself or others in your fairly immediate area is one thing, but popping someone from 100+ yds out, unless he is somehw a direct threat to you, is liable to get you in some serious trouble.That said,an AK clone would be hard to beat, or an sks if you want to go a bit less expensive.
     
  6. TCB in TN

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    Were I to have a trunk gun, it would likely be something innocent looking (just for appearances) such as a scoped Lever 30-30 (I know many folkd hate scoped lever guns) or similar that would be effective out to about 125 yards, but would not look like an "assault weapon".
     
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    +1 for SKS. As stated above, 100+ yards stretches the definition of 'defensive', but remember, a handgun is what you use to fight your way back to the long gun you never should have dropped in the first place. In the interests of being thorough, a long gun should be part of your plan. You don't know what you will be defending against or why.

    The reason I said SKS, is that if it's in your trunk, it needs to be a knockaround gun, and if you ever DO go through a region or get into a pissing match where the cops don't know the law, and they decide to 'hold' it until they get clarification, it's no catastrophic loss, like my heirloom M-1 carbine would be, and you can replace it for $125.
     
  8. M2 Carbine

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    I have a SKS behind the seat in the truck and a Kel Tec .223 SU-16CA in back of the station wagon.

    I use to leave M1 Carbines in the vehicles.
    Due to the BG's using body armor more I wanted to have handy a rifle round that would defeat armor better than the Carbine.

    For a cheap, powerful car rifle the SKS is probably hard to beat.
     
  9. Blackbeard

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    The problem is, if you're at your car, then flight is a preferable option. Hard to imagine a justifiable reason to grab the rifle instead of burning rubber.
     
  10. Zedicus

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    At that kind of range I would say either a Scoped (flat top type upper) AR15, or a Scoped M1A.
     
  11. kd7nqb

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    SKS could be a good option but I would go for the Kel-Tec SU-16. Part of me thinks it might be a good application for the Highpower carbines that could exchange mags with your sidearm.
     
  12. jaholder1971

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    Simple: SCOUT RIFLE!

    Short bolt gun with low power, forward mounted scope in .308 is what's in for taking out Moonbats shooting up courthouse and shopping mall parking lots.
     
  13. TFin04

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    The logistics of a trunk gun aside, I would choose a Marlin 336 no question.
     
  14. jakemccoy

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    I see the point from people who say this. However, please give an answer anyway. "No trunk gun" works as an answer too.
     
  15. akodo

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    I've got real reservations about this. True, if you are a CCWing, you are NOT acting like a police officer, chasing down robbers, etc. Same with 'happen to be armed today on my way to the hunting camp' same with 'I always have a gun in the truck' or what have you.

    First duty of the person is of course care of himself and his loved ones/immediate family. Sometimes this is realizing that you are in that whole 'airplane decompression situation' where adults must first put their own air mask on, and then put the mask on others. If they look to their children first, they may not succeed in putting the mask on the child before they pass out. So, to be most sure of saving the child you put your own mask on first. For firearms, this may mean getting to cover first and begin firing back, rather than helping slower members along, and possibly killed out in the open before the threat is eliminated, and then the killer tracks down everyone who is hiding and kills them.

    Also, there is the consideration of how your family will survive, even if they are miles away and safe, once the main breadwinner is dead, or once a key family component is removed, etc.

    Still, you are armed with a truck gun, and you see an axe murderer sything his way through a schoolbus full of pre-schoolers, can you really say "Hey, he is 102 yards away, and not actively a threat to me, theirfore I will call 911 and let the cops handle it!"

    I guess I look at it like a building/vehicle on fire. It is based on the individual scenario how severe the blaze is, what tools you have on hand, etc which all must be weighed in a tiny split second. Your kids are gonig to miss you just as much if you dive into a burning building to save child as if you dived into a gunfight to save a child, when in both cases you were not in immediate danger but chose to get involved
     
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    In Minnesota, trunk guns are illegal. You cannot keep a gun in the trunk unless you are going to or from a range, or you have a CCW permit. I would hate to have my car stolen/broken into and have a firearm stolen along with the car.
     
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    thebaldguy,

    where did you get that info from. It is my understanding that yes, indeed you can. It just falls under the basic firearms transport rules. You can have a gun in your trunk if it is unloaded. You can have it in your cab if it is cased and unloaded. There are no restrictions on this beyond that.

    Take a look at your posting. If that is the law, how do hunters transport their firearms? Or a person who is moving? Or a person who just bought a gun? is taking their gun in for repairs? is going to try and sell their gun? is bringing the gun to a friend to show off? Is a farmer and needs to have one handy for dispatching varmint? Is a farmer on his way to put a wounded animal out of it's misery?
     
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    SKS or Marlin 336.
     
  19. Jaenak

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    I personally have to say it's probably best you leave any incident to the police or swat team unless you're completely unable to leave or disengage. If there's absolutely no way to retreat and let the cops deal with it, then I suppose you could engage the threat but if at all possible, don't get involved.
     
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    I don't know what the law says, but if some lunatic is killing civilians it is a man's moral obligation to take action. Having said that, would a typical 30-30 bullet pierce body armour? I would have my doubts with a round nose projectile.
    Mauserguy
     
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  22. precisionshootist

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    Yes it most certainly would.

    This is how that would play out:

    First when the cops get there, the shooting has ended as usual, so they are too late to intervene which they wouldn’t do anyway because they would be too busy putting the entire city on "Lock Down". It’s clearly over now but they will put everyone on “Lock Down” anyway.

    They would find you, the person that had just stopped the maniac killing spree and saved lives, draw down on you screaming at the top of their lungs for you to drop your weapon and lay face down on the ground.

    At this point you would have a knee in the back, being handcuffed and arrested like you were a fugitive mall shooter

    You are put in the back of a squad car as TV crews and dozens more SWAT cops show up.

    You are hauled off to jail and your weapon is seized as evidence, later to face a grand jury and the DA while you drain your life savings just to retain legal counsel.

    At the scene are TV crews and now more cops than you can count all dressed up like they are Delta Force standing around looking authoritative displaying MP5 Submachine guns, M-16's, Flash bang grenades and interceptor body armor.

    If you avoid prosecution which you may or may not, either way you will be left with anywhere from sizable to life long legal bills. You will never see your rifle again.


    With that in mind !, the SKS is a great trunk gun!
    I carry a Chinese paratrooper SKS. Inside the case is a belt with pouch and 10 loaded stripper clips. Another pouch holds some cleaning supplies. The belt also has a fixed blade knife attached.

    Also I have carried this rifle for 8 years or more. The ammo (a mixed lot of Chinese steel core, Yugo brass, and Russian commercial) was in my trunk for at least 7 years +. This was 24/7 exposed to Texas heat in summer and cold in winter. Last summer I fired 40 of the 100 rounds and all worked flawlessly. All ammo types were fired both close range and at a gong at 300+ yards with many hits.
     
  23. stubbicatt

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    Agreed. The cops are more than 50% likely to charge you with something, and the DA will at least present a grand jury case.

    If you carry a trunk gun, be certain to choose something innocuous looking like a bolt actioned Mosin Nagant or the like.
     
  24. fearless leader

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    Before you play Hero

    Quote: Defending yourself or others in your fairly immediate area is one thing, but popping someone from 100+ yds out, unless he is somehw a direct threat to you, is liable to get you in some serious trouble.

    This is GOOD advice. I stepped in one time and nearly went to prison.:eek:

    Remember, before you "pop your trunk", YOU know what you are doing and what you are trying to accomplish, and people standing with you may also Know, but other people wanting to play hero may mistake a man aiming an AK or something in the parking lot as "SHOOT ON SIGHT", as you are probably not wearing a shirt announcing yourself as the good guy.
     
  25. single action

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    What I would like is a #4 enfield with 7" cut off the barrell,recrowned, the front sight replaced, and drilled and tapped for a mount and a scout type scope. If I can ever find a gunsmith locally to do it, its exactly what I will have. Oh, and while im dreaming lets parkerize it too.
    Collectors do not fear, I will only do this to a #4 that has allready been "bubba'd"
     
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