best/worst gun friendly states?

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I'm thinking about getting the heck out of Ohio, having spent all of my 24 years here - so I'm wondering, which states are the most or least gun-friendly? In terms of CCW, open carry, LEO harassment, blissninny levels, etc. etc.
Of course, I should also take into account the other laws, and the taxes, other various criteria.

Ok, might as well change the question to "If you could move to any state, where would you go and why" :)
 
Avoid DC, MA, CA, NJ, NY if at all possible.

Best might be AK and VT (regarding CCW).
 
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Texas is great. I moved here from California about 4 years ago. Gun friendly, and we don't have state income tax. My girlfriend moved here (from Ohio) last year to be with me in Texas....she sure doesnt miss the snow. Also, the job market in Ohio is pretty bad...that alone is enough to want to leave for me.

Lots of ranges, good food, and good folks if you ask me. I am 27 myself, so we are relatively close in age. Hop on a flight and see for yourself.
 
Gun laws aren't too bad in new york. Just no full autos unfortunatly. But, if you are taking all other things into consideration... steer clear. I beleve we are the highest tax state in the union...:uhoh:
 
A clarification to jobu07's post, New York State isn't too bad, but New York City is horrible. Last I heard the time to get a pistol license is over a year (it took me nine months when I lived there), and you can only take it out of your house two days a month (on preselected dates, the same dates every month).
 
Texas is great. No waiting periods, no limit on number of guns you can buy. You can get AKs and ARs to your heart's content. Not even a NICS check if you get a Texas CHL. All NFA items are allowed too. Loaded rifles need no license to keep in your car. It's technically legal to use deadly force to prevent theft of property too. No state income tax and all the Tex-Mex food you can eat. :D What else could you want?

Houston and Austin are liberal cesspools though. If you want to own NFA items you will have to incorporate because the sheriffs and chiefs won't sign Form 4s. Other than that it's pretty gun friendly.
 
Hmm yah, TX is definitely high on my list. I used to have some relatives who lived in Waxahatchie, visited during many summers in the 80s. I'm starting to think I'd like to be near the Gulf somewhere, maybe San Antonio, or even the FL panhandle. How does FL compare to TX?
 
Nevada is pretty good, especially when you come from CA like I did. :)

Clark County, though, is more restrictive than the rest of the state, and that's where Vegas is. You can't just go out to the desert and shoot, they delay CCW's as much as possible and there is handgun registration.

On the other hand full auto is legal as is open carry, although open carry wouldn't be the smartest thing to do in the city of Vegas.
 
Texas!

Beside what others have already said, we've got the best whitetail and javelina you've ever dreamed of. That is, of course, if you're into hunting.

How does FL compare to TX?
No state income tax. Similar cost of living. Similar (coastal) weather patterns. Spanish intensive (culture, history, language, architecture, music, and food). Oh, and yes... virtually the same CCW laws.

Fewer con artists in Texas, though. Florida seems to coddle them.
 
Colorado is pretty good. It could be better, but the same can be said of approximately 48 states ;)
 
Come to New Jersey!! It's awesome here! You can get your permission card from the state to buy most rifles and shotguns in less than 14 months, maybe even 6 if you're really lucky! You can EVEN beg and plead for an assault weapon license if you want to be a pre-ban AR, M1 carbine, CETME or HK91. No one has got one of these licenses yet but that doesn't mean you won't be the lucky one! We even get to go down to the police dept and get a cool piece of paper that says we can buy ONE handgun....I mean what other state gives out cool documents like that!?!? And the best part is you get to get another one each time you want another handgun......it's like a neverending supply of cool documents!! Oh OH how can i forget...after the first "smart gun" is on the market in only 3 years they will be the only handguns that you can buy....cause I mean who would want to own a dumb gun??? And on top of all that we can have magazines that hold 15..yes that's FIFTEEN....rounds unlike you silly other states that can have any amount you want. That's just cause all the best shots are in NJ and we don't need more than 15 rounds!

:banghead:
 
NH has always been kind to me, applied for my CCW online and picked it up 2 weeks later. no restrictions on carry except for courthouses, and all firearms including class III weapons are legal to posess.
 
AZ is pretty good. You folks in Texas need to get rid of your ridiculous lack of open carry--which means that adults under 21 are disarmed unless they're breaking the law or adults any age are disarmed unless they feel like forking over huge amounts of cash and time for a nanny-state permission slip, plus some of those funky knife laws.
 
Regarding the NJ smart gun thing, how does that effect guns bought out of state and transferred to an FFL? Will that also be verboten?
 
Regarding the NJ smart gun thing, how does that effect guns bought out of state and transferred to an FFL? Will that also be verboten?

The way the law read to me was as follows. After the first smart gun is on the market, even if it is later discontinued, three years to the day afterwards all gun sales through FFLs must be smart guns in the state of NJ. Any guns already owned at that point are fine, and by the way I read the law I don't see it prohibiting individual sales of non-smart guns, but there have been others who disagree with this.

Let me see if i can dig up the exact statue.
 
Come to Alaska...friendly people, good hunting and fishing, long cold dark winters, awesome summers...anything goes for weaponry..hell the Seante candidates fight over the gun owner vote...

No taxes. They give you money to live here. Causal lifestyle. Everybody is sort of an hippie.

Of course, based on what I have seen on the Board regarding the definition, the blisninnie level is high in the cities, but we are at least blissninnies with guns.


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MA is awful. I can't believe I have to wait 120-240 days for an FID!!! Anyway, VT, TX, and AK seem great for firearms laws.

I plan to visit all three and take my pick.

Wild, are homebuilt MGs legal in AK? I heard that they were. Oh, and how's the job market??
 
DATED: NOVEMBER 7, 2002

The Assembly Law and Public Safety Committee reports favorably and with committee amendments Senate, Nos. 573 and 890 (1R/SCS).

The Senate Committee Substitute (1R) for Senate Bill Nos. 573 and 890 regulates the future sale of handguns in New Jersey. The substitute specifies that three years after it is determined that personalized handguns are available for retail purposes, it will be illegal for any registered or licensed firearms manufacturer or dealer to transport, sell, expose for sale, possess for sale, assign or transfer any handgun unless that handgun is a personalized handgun.

Retail dealers who violate the provisions of the amended bill would be guilty of a crime of the fourth degree. A crime of the fourth degree is punishable by a fine of not more than $10,000, imprisonment for a term of up to 18 months, or both.

Personalized handguns, which commonly are referred to as "childproof" handguns, are defined in the amended bill as handguns that incorporate within their design, and as part of their original manufacture, technology which limits their operational use so that they can only be fired by an authorized or recognized user. The technology may involve a variety of systems, such as biometric, mechanical or electronic systems, which restrict the operation of the handgun through radio frequency tagging, touch memory, remote control, fingerprint, magnetic encoding or other automatic user identification programs.

The definition of a personalized handgun specifies that the handgun must meet the reliability standards that the manufacturer requires for its commercially available handguns that are not personalized. If the manufacturer does not have such reliability standards, the handgun must meet the reliability standards generally used in the industry for commercially available handguns. The Attorney General is permitted to consult with any "neutral and detached public or private entity" to provide assistance in determining whether a handgun meets the statutory definition of a personalized handgun.

The Attorney General is to biannually report his findings to the Governor and the Legislature. The substitute specifies that personalized handguns are to be deemed statutorily "available for retail sales purposes" whenever one manufacturer delivers at least one "production model" of a personalized handgun to a wholesale or retail dealer in New Jersey or any other state. The substitute defines a "production model" as a handgun that is the product of a regular manufacturing process that produces multiple copies of the same handgun model.

Two years after it is determined that personalized handguns are available for retail sales purposes, the Attorney General is to direct the Superintendent of State Police to prepare a list of the personalized handguns that may be sold in New Jersey. The bill affords the superintendent six months in which to prepare the list and make it available to firearms dealers in the State. The substitute requires the Attorney General to notify within 60 days the Governor and Legislature when a handgun is determined to meet the definition of a personalized handgun. The personalized handguns that may be sold are to be identified on the list by manufacturer, model and caliber. The substitute authorizes the Attorney General to require manufacturers who want their handguns included on the list of personalized handguns eligible for retail sale in the State to: (a) provide the necessary handgun or handguns for testing, (b) pay a reasonable application fee and (c) pay the costs incurred in, or associated with, the actual testing of the handgun.

On the first day of the sixth month following the prepared list and its delivery to firearms dealers in the State, the sales restriction takes effect. Thereafter, only personalized handguns may be sold by registered and licensed firearms dealers in New Jersey.

The substitute provides for limited exemptions for antique handguns and replicas of these handguns; handguns used in duly sanctioned state, national and international shooting matches and handguns used in competitions sanctioned by the Director of Civilian Marksmanship of the United States Department of the Army; and handguns used in shooting matches and competitions duly sanctioned by the Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs.

COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS:

The committee amended the bill to:

(1) to require the Superintendent of State Police promptly amend and supplement the list of handguns that qualify as a personalized handgun.

(2) delete section 4 and add new section 4 which provide an exemption for handguns to be sold, transferred, assigned and delivered solely for use in competitive shooting matches sanctioned by the Civilian Marksmanship Program, the International Olympic Committee or USA Shooting and establishes a seven-member commission to determine whether personalized handguns qualify for use by State and local law enforcement officers.


It's gonna be a HUGE mess if this law actually kicks in. I just hope I'm long gone out of the state if it ever does. Right now it appears to just effect FFL dealers, but I suspect once it goes into effect there will be a push to close the "loophole" of the private sale. :fire:
 
Indiana ranks pretty highly up there. No open Carry but Concealed with a permit and permits are easy to get and only cost 30 bucks for 4 years. I believe we also have the oldest CCW law in the country.
 
Third, machine guns are legal under state law, unfortunately, Feds arent signing Form 1s for new manufactures..

Job market depends on what ya do...medical related stuff is really big, as are aircraft mechanics, pilots, experienced truck drivers, diesal mechanics....

What do ya do..

Obviously a standing offer to any Board member thinking of relocating is to answer any questions you may have...

WildtourguideAlaska
 
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