Biden Interview; magazine cap. limit; Sun Oct. 23, 2022

[Golfanaticshooter]

This statement makes sense only if you are a single-issue gun voter. If, on the other hand, guns are only one item among a whole constellation of issues in which you are interested, things become a lot more complicated. Then you have to vote strategically, weighing the chances of each thing passing, etc. So if antigun legislation has only a remote chance of passing, then you can safely shift your attention to other things.

What color is the sky in your world? Really, what color?

 

[AlexanderA]

What color is the sky in your world? Really, what color?

Should I vote for someone who, for example, wants to repeal Social Security and Medicare, simply because they are pro-gun? There is a host of important issues we have to navigate, besides guns.

 

[DoubleMag]

I'd like that person running for office on that platform named. I know the name BTW, it's Mr. AND Mrs. NoBody RoundHere.

However, there ARE those that are openly defying the latest 2A SCOTUS decisions, subjugating the ppl, etc. Strangely, all peas in a similar pod.

 

[Yo Mama]

Should I vote for someone who, for example, wants to repeal Social Security and Medicare, simply because they are pro-gun? There is a host of important issues we have to navigate, besides guns.

Yes, privatize social security. You'd see a far greater return.

Back to guns! Joe is a moron.

 

[HPCadm17]

8 bullets per round? Good argument for carrying a larger caliber. Where can I find these new Federal HST-MIRV rounds?

So after watching this empty head say more stupid things on national TV, empty-headed voters will actually believe that one can magically alter the bolt and sear, turning an AR-15 into an M-16, simply by inserting a 100-round magazine loaded with bullets that can travel ~5000fps.

But none of that matters anyway, nobody cares about the details, it's the spirit of the argument that matters.

 

[Walkalong]

Should I vote for someone who, for example, wants to repeal Social Security and Medicare, simply because they are pro-gun? There is a host of important issues we have to navigate, besides guns.

And plenty of folks who are not rabidly anti gun who hold views on both side, there is simply no reason to vote for antis, no one is saying switch sides of the isle, just stop voting anti. It's not complicated

 

[hk940]

Should I vote for someone who, for example, wants to repeal Social Security and Medicare, simply because they are pro-gun? There is a host of important issues we have to navigate, besides guns.

Could you give one name of a pro gun candidate who is calling for the repeal of SS and Medicare, just one.
The SS "lockbox" was stolen years ago. Why is there never any talk about cutting any welfare programs? Just think about it!
A private SS account would give a better return because politicians couldn't grubby hands on it!

 

[AlexanderA]

The crux of the problem is the 2-party system. Democratic orthodoxy is to be antigun, while Republican orthodoxy is to be pro-gun. And each party has numerous "orthodoxies" on the other issues as well. Politicians aligned with the parties buck these orthodoxies at their peril. But actual voters may not agree with every plank in a given party's platform, so they are forced to make difficult choices. (A European-style multiparty system would better reflect the preferences of the voters, but alas we don't have that.)

As for Joe's ill-informed statements about guns, this may be a feature, not a bug. Remember that the average voter is equally ill-informed about guns. Politicians have -- knowingly or unknowingly -- been projecting ignorance since time immemorial. It's part of the so-called "plain folks" strategy. The idea is that you can never go wrong by underestimating the voters. You establish rapport by showing that you are just as dumb as they are. This is exactly why people think that Joe is empathetic. He's at their level (even though he's actually not).

 

[RetiredUSNChief]

"He noted, 'My legislation says there can be no more than eight bullets in a round.'

COOL! MIRV ammunition!

Where can I get some of this? I could increase the capacity of my 7+1 1991A1 to 56 + 8!

 

[Carl N. Brown]

(Biden) noted, 'My legislation says there can be no more than eight bullets in a round.'

Maybe he's thinking of limiting shotgun buckshot rounds to eight "bullets" a round.
(There go my buckshot shells with 9 or 12 00 shot per shell. Need to stock up on 12ga 3in with eight 000s.)

Anyone ever run a Biden speech on guns past the BATF Firearms Technology Branch for an opinion letter?

 

[The Night Rider]

It is scary that there are folks who are so ignorant passing laws for us.

You don't actually think they're that ignorant do you?

They're not mistakenly giving incorrect information in good faith, They're Deliberately Lying and the majority of people are stupid enough to believe them.

Or, a majority of people have never actually had need of a firearm for self-defense or they don't actually believe that the citizenry is capable of defending its self against the government ( and they completely ignore South Vietnam and Afghanistan) so they don't care if The Government outlaws your favorite gun.

In Nazi Germany Jews walked passively into the gas chambers telling each other that it was just a delousing shower rather than resist. That's what human beings do.

I have my own beliefs about the future of this Earth but if you just look at the secular governments of ALL nations today, it's pretty hard to escape the conclusion that we are at best one or two generations away from a worldwide totalitarian government.

 

[redcon1]

(A European-style multiparty system would better reflect the preferences of the voters, but alas we don't have that.)

I've been saying that for decades. Currently, the idea of a national popular vote has taken hold in leftist circles because it's "more fair and democratic". Nothing could be further from the truth of course and this would be the exact opposite of what we need and it would be the end of the Republic as we know it. It would essentially turn is into a one party system and, unfortunately, it is far more likely that we'll end up with this than a European style proportional democracy which would be the fairest and most democratic solution and that's the last thing they want of course.

As for Joe's ill-informed statements about guns, this may be a feature, not a bug.

Fabrications are easier to sell to the uninitiated naives that typically decide our elections. Our job is to educate these people on the issues. Their job is to fill their heads with misrepresentations, misinformation, half truths, and outright lies and they control a "well regulated" propaganda machine to facilitate it. The truth is always their enemy and they're getting pretty good at fighting it. We laugh at his ostensibly ignorant statements but I have no doubt, he's saying exactly what he means to say and he's laughing at us when we take his bait, like arguing about the difference between a clip and a magazine for example. Nobody cares about that. It's a tar baby argument. That isn't the fight we want, it's the fight they want and we let them choose our battles when we fight their fights like this.

 

[kwguy]

“Single issue” voting makes one who votes that way seem “narrow minded”, when in reality, it’s prioritizing what actually matters. Out of all the plethora of the standard “issues” that voters supposedly care about, gun control is the only one that is a constitutional right. Once you start giving up those rights in some sort of political compromise, the rest are soon to follow.

 

[nick22]

Ive heard of Duplex rounds, with 2 projectiles per cartridge. But Octex rounds?
Wow, Joe, thats a great idea, I think we should develop that immediately. Thanks, man!

Perhaps he's referring to Buckshot?

 

[Riomouse911]

It will rip your lungs out, Jim

I’d like to meet his tailor…ahhhwoooo!

Tio Joe has quickly become as sad as Grandpa Simpson; a senile cartoon character who should be in the Retirement Castle.



But Casting Couch Kamala is just as bad if not worse, her stance on the 2nd is slightly to the left of Stalin’s.

Vote on 11-8!

Stay safe.

 

[GEM]

Very few politicians have a real idea about the 2nd Amendment or real gun usage. Yeah, Biden knows nothing but I give you Sec. DeVos when asked why guns might be allowed in schools, she said - yes, for grizzly bears. Sen. Thune when asked why folks should have ARs, he said that well, folks hunt prairie dogs.

We will all have to wait until SuperJustice Clarence actually writes a clear opinion that wipes away the current and future gun bans.